Wood Deck Stripping PICAsk Questions on Stain Strippers that remove old or failed coatings for Exterior Wood, Decks, Fences, etc.

How to apply and what Stain Stripper will work best for your deck prep.

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RE: Wood and Deck Strippers
Quoting darnell:
Stripping 2-3 year old TWP 100 from cedar deck. Which product is more effective/easier to use - HD80 or Restore a Deck?

They both work well for removing the TWP. Make sure to use the Wood Brightener after to neutralize/
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Stripping 2-3 year old TWP 100 from cedar deck. Which product is more effective/easie r to use - HD80 or Restore a Deck?
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RE: Wood and Deck Strippers
Quoting Ken Carson:
Hi, We have a deck that was stained with Arbour Coat water based stain but which is peeling badly on the horizontal surfaces. Can I just scrape/sand or do I need to use a stain stripper then a neautralizer. If so, do I have to do that on vertical surfaces too. I'm especially wondering about the hundreds of spindles.
Thanks, Ken

Ken, the Arbor Coat is a nightmare of a product to remove. It cannot be stripped. You will need to sand to remove. You may just want to sand the horizontals, leaving the railings alone. Stain the floor with a semi-transparen t stain like the TWP or Armstrong Clark. This is what we call a two-toned deck.
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RE: Wood and Deck Strippers
Hi, We have a deck that was stained with Arbour Coat water based stain but which is peeling badly on the horizontal surfaces. Can I just scrape/sand or do I need to use a stain stripper then a neautralizer. If so, do I have to do that on vertical surfaces too. I'm especially wondering about the hundreds of spindles.
Thanks, Ken
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RE: Wood and Deck Strippers
Quoting rich tovar:
I have applied TWP only to my deck and previously used RAD. I now see that Safe Strip is available. Will this work as well as RAD.

thanks

No, the RAD stripper is a more effective stain stripper.
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safe strip versus RAD
I have applied TWP only to my deck and previously used RAD. I now see that Safe Strip is available. Will this work as well as RAD.

thanks
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RE: Wood and Deck Strippers
Quoting sharon mcnal:
pressure treated deck, previously treated with arbor coat from benjamin moore, peeling. What products recommended for prep and staining?

The Arbor coat will need to be sanded off as stain strippers will not remove it. Once removed fully from the deck, try Defy Extreme or Armstrong Clark.
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prepping and staining deck in canada
pressure treated deck, previously treated with arbor coat from benjamin moore, peeling. What products recommended for prep and staining?
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RE: Wood and Deck Strippers
Quoting D3badger:
Is there any product to assist with stripping Olympic Rescue It off of a deck? Less than 1 season and it flakes off.

The Olympic Rescue-It is a filming deck resurface coatings. Stain Strippers will not remove it. It will need to be sanded off.
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Resue It help
Is there any product to assist with stripping Olympic Rescue It off of a deck? Less than 1 season and it flakes off.
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re: STRIPPER
The Restore A Deck Stain Stripper will easily remove when needed.
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STRIPPER
I just purchase Messmers uv plus for hardwood from you. I know it's a little early but what stripper works well with this product when it's time to refinish? Thanks
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Sorry but deck stain strippers will not work on veneer.
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HELP Stripping OAK door stained with arborcoat black
Sorry for the repeat. I forgot to add some details. Hope that helps.

I have a oak door that was stained the wrong color. it's been sanded, but there are still some parts that are holding the color. Since the door is veneer, it can't be sanded anymore. Would it help to try to strip at all? Or is that useless. If so, what's the best stripper to use to keep the veneer intact? Defy or HD80? TY! What a wonderful forum.
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I have a oak door that was stained the wrong color. it's been sanded, but there are still some parts that are holding the color. Since the door is veneer, it can't be sanded anymore. Would it help to try to strip at all? Or is that useless. If so, what's the best stripper to use to keep the veneer intact? Defy or HD80? TY! What a wonderful forum.
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re: remove a stain from my deck that has build up
What type of stain is it? Semi-trans, solid stain, etc? What brand? How many times applied?
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I am trying to remove a stain from my deck that has build up over time what's the best type of deck stripper to use.
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re: HD 80
We can sell this to homeowners. No issues.
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HD 80
I tried asking this on the product page but it got removed. I have a porch that was stained with a water based Permachink deck stain. I was interested in the HD80 considering what it costs for 3000 sf coverage but was wondering why you don't recommend it for home owners? What would you recommend instead for diy? Thanks.
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re: In-Store Purchase
Yes you can walk in to buy 8am to 5pm Monday-Friday.
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In-Store Purchase
I am curious as to whether the product is available for purchase in-store in Bloomfield, MI. (Restore a deck stripper & brightener) We live just south of Monroe, MI & are afraid the roduct will not arrive by the weekend.

Thanks.
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re: owner painted the deck with Olympic Rescue It
Sorry but it is not possible to strip this product. You will have to sand it completely off the wood.
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I bought a house where the previous owner painted the deck with Olympic Rescue It. What should I use to remove it and start over? I am leaning toward HD80.
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re: WHAT SHOULD I USE TO CLEAN MY DECK?
Yes you will need to strip. Coverage is accurate. Brighten the wood is needed after to neutralize.
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what should I use to clean my deck?
I have a 600 sq ft deck that was treated with DEFY semi transparent stain 2 years ago. I was to lazy to re-stain it last year even though it look horrible. It is mostly worn off where the sun hits, however about 1/4 of it is under roof and still intact. I plan on using Olympic semi solid elite deck stain. What should I use to clean/ remove the old product? I have looked at the restore a deck stripper and brightener. Is that over kill or appropriate? If so does the stripper really cover 500-1000 sq ft? And the brightener is used to neutralize the stripper, right?

Thanks
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re: Can I buy Stripex-L from you?
Not made anymore. Closest would be the Restore A Deck Stain Stripper or Defy Stain Stripper.
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homeowner
Can I buy Stripex-L from you?
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re: Will HD-80 remove varnish?
No it will not. No deck stain stripper will remove varnish effectively.
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HD-80
Will HD-80 remove varnish?
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Both the RAD and HD80 can be mixed stronger if needed for any project. You can buy either.
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Is HD80 only sold to contractors? Also, is the RAD stripper superior to the Defy Stripper when removing Defy Epoxy?
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The HD80 or the Restore A Deck Stripper.
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It's been a few years since we put Defy Epoxy in Natural Pine down. I've cleaned and brightened a portion of my deck which removed a great deal of the remaining stain, but not all of it on the vertical posts. I'm thinking that if I don't remove it all, the coloring will be blotchy and the new stain won't soak in properly. Which of the stain strippers you sell would work best (and easiest) specifically on the removal of Defy Epoxy? Thanks.
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Yes it should remove a semi-transparen t oil based stain. Use the Restore A Deck Stripper and then the brightener after.
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Semi transparent
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Which transparency?
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DECKSCAPES was put on it
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re: DECK STAIN NEEDS REMOVED
It should as long as it is semi-transparen t or transparent and not shiny like a varnish. Do you know what brand you are removing?
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Deck stain needs removed
Oil based deck stain want to get the stain out and get back to as close to natural wood color as I can. Will a wood stripper work?
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re: RESTORE OIL BASE CLEAR STAIN ON FOR COVERED DECK IN PCNW
Water based stains like Defy will not darken. Look at the Defy Extreme version?
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Restore oil base clear stain on for covered deck in PCNW
Hey, Need help ! There are a lot of product options..... Have a customer in Washington with fir deck that is oil base clear that darkened. They want old removed & start over. I suggested to go with the water-base clear for the deck.
The Defy product sounds good perhaps the marine defy?
Thanks a lot for your time & input.
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re: Superdeck
This particular product cannot be stripped. You will have to sand it off.
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Superdeck
Hello. Last September I had my deck painted and decided on the superdeck elastomeric coating in a solid after discussing with the painters. I live in Northern Ontario. It has not survived the winter well and now I need to fix it. It's peeling off in great big patches in several places. I now need to get rid of all of this (I assume) and start again. It's a large deck with two landings.
My question is what's the best way to deal with this sand, strip and with what. I have a dog and would like to use something safe if possible.
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re: CAN MINERAL SPIRITS REMOVE BEHR DECK STAIN???
That will not remove it. Depending on the type of Behr it was, you will need to strip and sand ti get it off.
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Can mineral spirits remove Behr deck stain???
I'm attempting to refinish the decks at our house... They are stained in a dark Behr stain... Can I use say Sunnyside mineral spirits to do the job or do I need to go another route??? Also, is there a proper mixing ratio for mineral spirits or does it get applied undiluted???
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You should strip off with the Restore A Deck Stripper and Brighten when done. Look at the Armstrong Clark Stain in the Amber or Mahogany. You cannot get two different wood types to match. The stains highlight the natural grain of each wood and they will different because of this.
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Homeowner
Hi -

I have a 3 year old massaranduba deck. I treated it last year with the Messmers A and B cleaner and brightener, and finished with Messmers U.V. Plus Natural for Hardwood Decks. It now has a darker, dirty look. Is there a way to restore it (and a better way to finish it)?

Question 2 relates to a new ipe deck. I need advice on how to finish/protect this. Ideally want it to be close to the massaranduba deck in appearance (recognizing there are limitations to different woods).

Many thanks.

Matt

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Dick, what type of Cabot stain is it? Transparent, solid, etc?
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Defy Stain Stripper
My deck is presently stained with Cabot Oil based stain. Time to be re-stained and I would like to use TWP 1500. Can I use the Defy product and how does it differ from Gemini Safe Strip?
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re: Restore-a-Deck Stripper
It should be still good.
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Restore-a-Deck Stripper
I have left over Restore-a-Deck stripper that was mixed with water a year ago and has been sitting in a pump sprayer since then.

Is it still good to use?
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re: Restore a Deck Stripper and Brightener directions?
Best to use a pump sprayer for both. Yes the stripper will need to be pressure washed off. You do not need a pressure washer for the brightener.

Apply stripper with pump sprayer. Let sit for 10-20 minutes and pressure wash off. When removed rinse all wood well and then apply brightener. Rinse brightener after 10 minutes lightly.
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Restore a Deck Stripper and Brightener directions?
Can you please clarify application and rinse procedures for both products. On the Stripper, must a pump sprayer be used, or is there an alternative? Must the Stripper be power washed off? Or can it be simply rinsed by hose. And same questions for the brighter. Thanks much!
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re: Defy in Canada
No dealers there but we can ship it to you.
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Defy Stain and Stripper
I am trying to find Defy brand stain and stain stripper in my home province of Newfoundland. Any help finding a dealer or distributor near St. John's, NL?
Cheers, Derek
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re: Removing solid stain
No stain stripper will remove a solid stain well and especially on verticals. You would try a powdered stripper to see if it helps some. RAD Stain Stripper or HD80. Powders are nice since you can mix them stronger of needed.
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Removing solid stain
I am in the process of removing an oil based solid stain (cabots) and, from what I can tell, there are 3 or 4 old coats of who knows what underneath. I've sanded the deck down to bare wood. Is there a product that will work to help strip the railing and spindles? I'm assuming I will still have to sand some but am trying to minimize the amount of sanding required. I used cabot wood stripper and flood wood stripper on the deck and rails but it only removed some of it. The deck itself stripped fairly well, still had to sand but mostly one or two of the remaining coats. At least it took it down a little bit. The rails didn't strip much because it kept drying even with my misting it with water. Then I ran out of the stripper I had and decided to see if there is a more efficient product.
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re: NEED HELP WITH STAIN STRIPPER
Prewet and rinse and you should be okay.
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NEED HELP WITH STAIN STRIPPER
Do I need to protect my vinyl siding from the stain stripper or can I just keep it wet prior to application?
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Merri, stain strippers will not remove paint. You will need to sand it off the deck.
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re: Need help with stain stripper
You need a stain stripper, not a cleaner. Try HD80 or the Restore A Deck Stripper. Brightener is needed after.
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Need help with stain stripper
Have a PT deck. Prior owner used Behr Semi Trans stain and it won't come completely off with my Restore cleaner. Looking for help on what to use
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Homeowner
I have a deck that we "painted" about 5 years back with a tan latex paint and I'm trying to get it all off and start over with just a stain to match my other deck. I need to find out best stripper for this and how to apply.
I have a small power washer that will help rinse a stripper off too.

I have 4 dogs so I'm concerned about their welfare in this process and want something that will definitely be biogradable and go into the ground. No bushes to worry about around the deck but gravel and sand under it that the dogs can get into.

Please contact me and provide some advice.
Thank you.
Merri Oxley
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re: Stripping? Brightening? Help needed with re-application of S-W Deckscapes Solid, please...
Just use the Stripper since it is a solid stain. Use the Restore A Deck stripper that we sell.
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Stripping? Brightening? Help needed with re-application of S-W Deckscapes Solid, please...
Hello!

First off -- what a helpful resource! I wish I had come across this last year when we first started this ri-deck-ulous job. (sorry...bad pun)

Several years ago, we bought a lovely house with a REALLY cool deck. The deck is just a giant square a couple feet off the ground with a couple of steps leading to the yard on either side. It's got no railings, so it looks like a big dance floor. There was just one problem with the deck: it was covered with carpet. Yes...carpet... and not even that indoor-outdoor stuff; it was like a Berber or something - very weird.

We ripped up the carpet to find a deck that was relatively solid, but its surface was....yukky. Removing the carpet had left behind chunks of grey-ish glue, which clashed hideously with an unappetizing barn-red stain that the carpet had covered, which (yep - you guessed it!) did not, in fact, match ANY color anywhere in our lovely brown brick and putty-sided home. (sigh)

Utterly inexperienced (and also in the market for a little roof over part of the deck), we sought a builder's help. The contractor did what we asked -- built us a little roof and re-stained our deck brown after removing all the glue and yuck. Unfortunately, we must not have communicated our ideas very clearly. We had envisioned a deck that was stained a beautiful, light shade of natural brown that complemented our gorgeous bricks; what we got was a deck that had no visible wood grain because it had been slathered with dark brown solid paint. We realized that we had not been clear in describing our expectations (and there were other issues that were much more important to resolve), so we decided to live with it.

Fast forward a few years (full of direct sun on the days when our Appalachians weren't getting pounded with snow), and the deck paint has started to fade and show wear after considerable human and canine use. After much research, we learned that we would have to remove the S-W Deckscapes Solid stain if we wanted to get the deck to the shade we wanted.

We're a little crunchy-granola , so we tried "safe" strippers first -- several of them. Then we moved to the sander...okay, SANDERS. We rented a vibrating plate sander...and then bought orbital and belt sanders. Then we rented a power washer. Frantic, we decided the environment wasn't really all that important anyway (heck, we're middle-aged), so we tried the harsh chemical strippers. None of it was easy, it was all expensive, nothing worked like we expected.

One year later, we're ready to try again. At this point, we have accepted that the S-W Deckscapes Solid is going to last longer than we are, so we might as well just re-stain using the same product and color. The problem is that the stain is not evenly worn (remember last year: stripper, stripper, sander, sander, sander, power washer, power washer over each of the aforementioned areas [stripper, stripper, sander, sander, sander], toxic chemicals?) -- it was like some kind of bachelor party gone wrong.

Add in some newer wood (a couple of boards that we replaced last year before starting the strip-a-palooza ), and what we have now is a deck that looks like a sad, patch-work quilt.

So here are my questions (finally): Do we need to use both a stripper and a brightener? Or just a stripper? Should we use the Sherwin-William s brand(s) of those products? Is there another that would better suit our circumstances?

Thanks so very much!

~Deidre
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re: cover the siding ?
The RAD stripper does not remove solid paints unless the paint is peeling. It should not discolor either but best to test a small spot first.
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cover the siding ?
Hi I just purchased the restore a deck stain stripper, I imagine this stuff will strip the paint off the siding too, will covering and taping the siding prevent damage to it?

Thanks,

Mike
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re: Removing Solid Stain
You will be fine if you let the wood season for a year. If you think you will need to sand some off then you should do that now instead of next year.
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Removing Solid Stain
I have a very large pressure-treate d deck and some years ago I made a really bad mistake by applying solid stain. The results were the usual: flaking, peeling, etc. Knowing I wouldn't get all of it off. I purchased HD-80 stripper and brightener from you in hopes that I could remove most of the old pale green solid stain and then apply a a dark semi-transparen t stain, resulting in a deck that wouldn't look too bad. The stripper exceeded my expectations; after one application, most of the old stain has been removed, with traces around knots, etc. My question: I would like to leave the wood bare and reapply the stripper next Spring, letting Mother Nature do her job in the meantime. Would leaving my pressure-treate d wood bare until next Spring result in damaged wood? Thank you for your great products and serve. Paul
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The stripper will stay active indefinitely.
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How long does mixed stripper keep
There are some areas of our railing we need to strip by hand so we are going to mix up some RAD stripper in a container. Will it be good for several days or must it all be used in a few hours?:-)
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Pastorek, use the Restore A Deck Stripper and the Brightener to remove this. Are looking for suggestions on a different brand?
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stripping
I want to remove the defy hard wood stain light walnut what product should I use for that. We sanded down our cedar deck last year looked great after staining went south for winter came back the deck looks horrible !I think we should have rinsed it to get the loose dust off and then used something to absorb the stain better which we would have done to begin with, so please tell me what to do for I wont have to do it again thankyou.
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Nickie, look at the Restore A deck Stripper and pressure washing to remove. Stain with the Armstrong Clark in the Mahogany color once removed.
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questions about stain strippers and the right stain to use
WE HAVE A 3 YR OLD IPE WOOD DECK APPROXIMATELY 2200 SQ FT. WE BOUGHT THE DECKING FROM MENARDS AND ORDERED PRODUCTS THEY RECOMMENDED. USED WOLMANS EXOTIC HARDWOOD FINISH FOR IPE WOOD. WE DIDN'T KNOW AT THE TIME WE SHOULD HAVE WAITED A WHILE BEFORE PUTTING ON STAIN. THE PRODUCTS WERE APPLIED AND I THINK INCORRECTLY BECAUSE BY 3 MONTHS THE STAIN WAS COMING OFF. WE STARTED SEEING FOOTPRINTS ON THE STEPS WHERE THEY HAD WALKED ON THE STEPS WET. ANYWAY, IT HAS BEEN 3 YEARS AND WE HAVE VERY LITTLE STAIN LEFT AND A LOT OF GRAYING. THE ONLY AREAS WE HAVE ANY COLOR LEFT IS WHERE WE HAVE COVER THAT DOESN'T GET FULL SUN. WE LIVE IN WESTERN KY AND IT IS VERY HOT. THE DECK GETS ALL THE MORNING SUN AND MOST OF THE AFTERNOON. I AM DESPERATE TO GET THE BEAUTIFUL COLOR BACK. WHAT STRIPPER WORKS WITH THE LEAST AMOUNT OF WORK. AND WHAT KIND OF STAIN WOULD YOU RECOMMEND FOR THIS CLIMATE. I KNOW I'LL HAVE TO REAPPLY IN THE FALL AND AT THAT TIME WHAT STEPS WILL I HAVE TO DO. THANKS. NICKIE
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re: A Wood Deck Stain Strippers
Yes you will need to strip off the old coating when switching brands. Make sure to use a wood brightener when done to neutralize.
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A Wood Deck Stain Strippers
I stained few years ago using a water-based stain and my deck is in horrible condition right now. I decided to get out of the old staining and use this time a oil-based product. Right now the old stain is pilling as crazy and to apply an oil-based product I decided to remove completely the stain and then apply the new product. I will like to have a very nice looking wood deck for a long time. I don't want to stain the deck and in 2 years to stain again. Do you think I am doing the right way of stripping the old stain first and then apply the new one? Thank you in advance!
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re: Stain won't saturate
Brightening or not will not effect the stain's ability to soak into the wood. If it is not absorbing then most likely there is an old coating preventing it. Maybe remnants of the older acrylic stain still left in the wood grain?
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Stain won't saturate
I stripped a 100% acrylic stain using Wolman's ASR (the only stripper I found that would remove acrylic) from my back deck in 2011. It took a lot of product but I got it done. A few weeks after I stripped the deck I sanded, washed and used a brightener. A few weeks after the new stain cured I noticed an inconsistency in the appearance, as if it didn't penetrate in some spots. In Jan 2014 I did the same thing to my floating dock using a different stain, but with the same results: inconsistent penetration. The mfg suggested that I didn't brighten it, but I did. I used a lot of stripper. Do I need to brighten more than once to neutralize it? I waited several weeks before I neutralized it. Would that be a problem? Thanks for any help.
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Nickie, it depends on the type of stain and the brand that you are trying to remove. Do you know this? It works on most stains but not all.
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mrs
I need to strip off old stain that is peeling and reapply new stain. Is the restore a deck stripper going to do the job. I will be using a pump sprayer to apply the stripper. The direction say that it will be more concentrated in a pump sprayer. Does the area need to be wet when sprayed on and how big an area should be worked at a time. Our deck is approximately 2200 sq ft. I have white vinly post and railing on my deck. Does this need to be covered when we spray the stripper.
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re: let stripper dry or not
I would brighten after you completed all of the stripping.
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let stripper dry or not
Iam stripping my deck and after washing clean I follow up with brightener, question is can I let it dry and continue stripping procedure letting it dry and continue stripping without brightening or do I need to brighten immediately following the stripping process?

thanks for the help
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re: Best stripper for removing pigmented sealer from cedar deck?
The Restore A Deck Stripper followed by the RAD Brightener.
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Best stripper for removing pigmented sealer from cedar deck?
What stripper would you recommend for removing ADM-2000 pigmented sealer (Pecan finish) from my cedar deck? The boards next to the house are very dark due to excess water spilling over the gutters and due to lack of sunlight.
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re: Taking off Behr semi-transparen t stain (trying)
I would wait until you are done with all the stripping than brighten.
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Taking off Behr semi-transparen t stain (trying)
I am using RAD stripper to take off a 2 year old Behr stain. It looks like I am going to have to do at least another coat to try to get all the old stain off. Do I have to neutralize the deck now since I am not going to make the second attempt for a few days?
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re: Strippers and painted steel balusters
You should be okay but do a test spot first.
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Stippers and painted steel balusters
Please tell me I do not need to protect my painted steel balusters when using RAD stripper on the railing, posts and deck???
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after cleaning my deck with the powerwasher and SW deck cleaner. It's started to rain all day. can i put the SW revive (retores the ph balance)on the next day and sand?? Thanks
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It depends if the old stain is still intake or failing.
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thanks.. so i don't need to strip the remaining stain off correct??
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re: Stripping
Jode, cleaner and brighten for the prep then reapply the TWP.
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Stripping
I have a cedar deck with TWP Stain on it. It's been 2yrs and it's starting to peel. My question is should I use deckscape stripper on it or just use the powerwasher. I'm going to be using the same brand of stain to restain it. Thanks
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re: Which stripper for SW deckscapes waterbased semi transparent?
SW is hard to remove. Best would be the Restore A Deck Stripper but you may need to strip it more then once. Make sure the brighten the wood when done.

TWP 1500 is a great choice.
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Which stripper for SW deckscapes waterbased semi transparent?
I have a PT deck that was stained with SW deckscapes water based semi transparent. It has peeled and I want to use a different stain. Which stripper would work best and be easiest for a DIY to use?

Most of the deck was replaced last year with pressure treated pine. Once I strip previously existing stairs, I will stain everything the same. I am considering TWP 1500. I am in RI where there is often snow in the winter and summers can be hot. Is TWP 1500 a good choice or would you recommend something else?
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1. No it can be damp
2. Pressure washer
3. Yes you need a brightener.
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I have a few questions... 1. Does the deck have to be completely dry before you can strip it? 2. Do you have to use a pressure washer to remove it or can you just use a garden hose with a high pressure tip? 3. Do you always have to use a brightner? My cousin and I are going to attempt to strip her deck and he stain it ourselfs. Thanks for the help.
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Dorothy, never hear of Bravo so I am not sure. Might want to ask that manufacturer for help.
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What stripper can I use to remove sealer from composite decking. Was sealed with Bravo by Enclre Coatings.
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same quantity as the RAD.
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What would be the amount needed for the HD80 if I go that way?
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re: Prefer RAD over HD80?
Both are excellent.
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Prefer RAD over HD80?
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I would get two strippers and two brighteners of the RAD products.
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Approx 1300 sq feet I'm told
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Jules, what is the total sq. footage of the wood?
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I have 2 decks, 28x16 and12x10 - both have rails/spindles, there is 88feet of 3ft lattice and 15 stairs......ide a of how much stripper and brightener I need?
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Do I need to apply a stain stipper?
My projects have 3 parts: 1) I need to restore a previously stained cedar fence in the city, unknown product; 2) The exterior of my log home in the country, which was stained at least 10 years ago, if not more, also unknown product; 3) We built a deck for the log home last summer, stained the cedar railings in September using the Defy Extreme stain, only 1 coat.
Last year I bought Defy Wood Cleaner, Defy Brightener and Defy Extreme stain, but haven't used much of these products. Could you please tell me where I need to use a stain stripper (which brand?), and where to use the Defy cleaner/brighte ner to prep the surface.
Part 1: The cedar fence has uneven colours, mold, black patches. Was stained at least 6-7 years ago.
Part 2: The log home is probably red cedar or similar variety, mostly blackened with dirt & grime, especially areas that are exposed to rain/snow & sun. No sign of peeled old stain.
Part 3: We stained the new cedar railings without cleaning it with the Defy products, only 1 coat of Defy Extreme stain on the new wood. We didn't touch the structural wood, which is pressure treated. Should we apply the second coat of stain to the deck railings and structural wood?
Thank you!
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re: Behr stripping
Removing Behr is almost like removing a paint. There is no magical stripper that will remove it effectively every time. At this point you will probably need to sand it off.
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Behr stripping
Sorry - I posted the following in the deck restoration forum and I think it should be here:

I am looking at a deck that had behr semi-transparen t applied to it 3 years ago this month. The owner has asked me to remove the behr completely (some horizontal area coverage has failed in the last year), and use twp100 to re-stain.

I mixed hd80 per strength recommended on container and used it on an out-of-the-way portion of the deck that had not been treated with behr, but some other stain (unknown provenance), and the results were fantastic, with the stain dissolving with little mechanical action in 15 minutes, and easily removed down to wood with the pressure washer.

I then moved to an area of the deck that was treated with the behr stain 3 years ago and applied the hd80 in a similar fashion and waited 10, 15, then 30 minutes. After 15 minutes I applied some mechanical energy to the area and kept the surface wet with hd80. At 30 minutes there was no change in the surface of the stain - it looked like the hd80 made absolutely no dent in that stain.

Could you make some recommendations as to the next course of action I should take? Perhaps increase the strength of the hd80 or use another substance or should I resort to sanding?

Thanks for your help
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re: I live in northeast Mississippi
Rick, that should be a good plan.
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I live in northeast Mississippi. I am going to strip and clean a deck at our cabin. Would Restore-a-Deck stripper and brightener be the best product to use?
For staining would TWP be the best stain to use?
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re: CWF stripping
I would suggest the RAD stain stripper and wood brightener for the prep. As for the stain, try looking at the Armstrong Clark. It is much easier to apply and lasts long as well.
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CWF stripping
Is Restore-A-Deck the best option for removing oil based CWF stain, and do you recommend a different stain as opposed to the CWF? That stuff is tedious when applying to the side rail spindles and lattuce.
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re: stripping a wood deck removing stain
Apply the Restore-A-Deck Stain Stripper then pressure wash off. Apply the wood brightener when done.
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stripping a wood deck removing stain
i have a pressure washer what would you use for the first step
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re: thompsons oil stain
Best to use a stain stripper followed by a brightener. I would look at the Restore A Deck Stain Stripper (www.opwdecks.com/.../).
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thompsons oil stain
somone that i know has put a thompsons water seal semi transparent oil stain on their deck and it's already peeling is their any way to remove it?:-)
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re: stripping siding
Yes "scoring" the surface will allow the HD80 to get behind the stain so it can be more effective.
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stripping siding
What would the best stripper be for removing a semi transparent stain that was applied to heavily and formed a film. It is an oil modified acrylic it is rather stubborn to remove I tried hd-80 and it did okay maybe removed about 50%. Would sanding the siding first to break the film that has formed help?
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re: Behr stain removal
Not sure what they carry but I doubt it will get the Behr off effectively. Even HD80 can have some difficulty removing Behr. Behr is just a horrible stain.
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Behr stain removal
I was wondering if home depot or menards sells anything that strips off behr stain cause where i come from i cant get hd-80.;-)
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That's too bad! Most strippers would work to remove the Defy. For economical reasons I would use the Restore-A-Deck Stain Stripper followed by the brightener. You might want to wait until spring though. It will be easier to remove and you will be able to enjoy the newly applied stain for the year.
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I applied Defy water based hardwood stain in cedar color over new mahogany deck that had first been cleaned and brightened. Looked great. Then people that power washed house prior to painting got bleach onto the deck. Some sections are completely bleached with no finish appearing to remain. Other sections look splotchy. What stripper should be used to remove the Defy ? Are all strippers sodium hydroxide based and the main difference is their concentration ? Or do some contain other ingredients that would help remove the Defy ? For example, would the Defy stripper be designed to remove their stain ?
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re: Deck Stain Ruined by rain, restrip and wait til spring?
What bad luck!

I would not do anything right now and wait until Spring to do it over again then.
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Deck Stain Ruined by rain, restrip and wait til spring?
I must have very bad luck! After waiting all summer for an great weather week, we thought we found one and had power washed our two-story deck and used restore-a-deck cleaner, let it dry for three days, and then stained with TWP 1500 purchased from you. Six hours later, it unexpectedly rained and did not stop for three days! Now the stain is clearly ruined, water spots, uneven and all around ugly.

We are thinking of starting over, power washing, using restore-a-deck again, and then letting the deck sit over our Chicago winter and waiting until Spring to seal. Is this a good idea?? Please help!
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re: Do we just use a silicon filler
Wood fillers or putty's will NOT work on outside wood. Do not do it as it will look bad and the stain will not take there. It will also crack or break out.
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In prepping our deck for staining there are a couple of places where a knot in the flooring came out. Do we just use a silicon filler or do you have a better recommendation? Thanks
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re: Toxic to pets?
Deck stain strippers need to be neutralized with a wood brightener when done. This will make the stripper non harmful to pets.
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Toxic to pets?
Are the solid color deck stain removers harmful to pets?
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re: semi solid or solid stain on my deck
Only by the opacity. If you can see most of the wood grain then it is probably not a semi-solid.
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semi solid or solid stain on my deck
I am trying to figure out whether I've got semi solid or solid stain on my deck, because that will determine how I prep for resealing. Is there any way to tell?
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re: did i apply too much stripper the first time
A pressure washer to rinse and a wood brightener would have made it much easier.
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stripper
did i apply too much stripper the first time or is that typical for it to take 4 hours to get it off?
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re: Behr No. 64
You should strip before re coating. Make sure to use a wood brightener to neutralize deck stain strippers.
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Behr No. 64
I used two containers of Behr No. 64 deck stain stripper today. I was told at Home depot that i had to strip whatever coating was on the deck before i could apply a clear coat becuase the previous coat would keep the new clear coat from sticking. Is this true? did I need to strip the deck, or could i have just applied another coat?

Also, I applied the stripper in about an hour and then it took 5hours with the hose to get most of the stripper off. Soapy stripper water just kept coming and coming off the deck and never really stopped. Does this mean i never reall got the stripper up? I scrubbed the deck five times and still it was coming up. Did i apply too much stripper? It says on the product to apply liberally. Thanks for any help. Im wondering if i should just apply a clear coat without stripping on the back deck which I have to do next.
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re: Stainless steel nails vs screws
I would just nail them back in.
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Stainless steel nails vs screws
Before I stain my deck there are some nails that have raised. Is it better to just pound them back in, replace with new stainless steel nails, or stainless steel screws?
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re: What type of stripper for over-applicatio n of a new semi-transparen t stain?
I would use the Restore-A-Deck Stripper. You may need to slightly sand after.
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What type of stripper for over-applicatio n of a new semi-transparen t stain?
We accidently over-applied Armstrong Clark Semi-Transparen t Mahogany to our brand new redwood deck and it's uneven and looks awful. I think we might strip it all off but I'm not sure what type of stripper would be best. Would we also need to sand it?
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re: Deck Stripping
Nothing removes a solid stain. You would need to sand it off.
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Deck Stripping
So the RAD Stain Stripper would not be worth trying with a power washer or pump sprayer?
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re: Deck Stripping
I am sorry but nothing removes a solid color stain effectively.
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Deck Stripping
By the way the stain on the deck is Behr Solid Color Deck, Fence,& Siding Wood Stain. It's been on the deck about four years
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Deck Stripping
I just used about two gallons of Behr Premium NO. 64 Wood Stain & Finish Stripper on two 5 x 10 foot areas. After waiting at least an hour after a second application we have not succeeded in clean one full deck board. I didn't use the cleaner brightner to diluted the stripper, so if I were to switch to the RAD Stain Stripper do I have to clean the other off or just go ahead & remove everything with the RAD product.
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re: How long after you've used deck stripper do you need to use brightener
It is best to do it as soon as possible.
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How long after you've used deck stripper do you need to use brightener to neutralize the stripper? Does it have to be immediately after you have rinsed the stripper with water, or can you wait the next day, or even a couple days later? I have a large deck and will not be able to strip the entire deck in 1 day.
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re: strippers
Deck stain strippers typically do not harm the house but you should protect the plants. They are all caustic products. The Rad Stripper would be a good choice.
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strippers
Is there a stripper that is safer to use then othes . DO you have to protect the house and cover the plans with all your stripers. There is a dark sealer on the deck now from what i can see i need to use a stripper rather than a clean. Thanks Ron Tredo
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re: how to strip a deck of peeling paint
Deck stain strippers will not remove paints effectively. You will need to sand it off.
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how to strip a deck of peeling paint the deck is was white i tryed with powerwasher what materials do i ned
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re: Removing Benjamin Moore Semi Solid Alkyd
Probably not. Most likely you will need to sand it off.
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Removing Benjamin Moore Semi Solid Alkyd
Will DEFY (or any other) stripper remove this? Thx
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re: Restore-A-Deck stripper question.
The RAD Stripper is the strongest stripper out there. You can mix it stronger if you would like. SW is a water based acrylic stain and depending on the amount of coats can be stubborn to remove. Are you using a pressure washer as well after waiting the 20 minutes?
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Restore-A-Deck stripper question.
I've mixed the stripper as per instructions ('.75' cup crystals : '1' Gal. warm water). Applied with pump sprayer and kept wet with solution for 20-30 minutes wait and not much happening. Can I strengthen the solution? I am removing 3 year old SW Deckscape Semi....Or, should I find a different, stronger brand of stripper?
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re: we are trying to remove wolmans durastain
Wolman Durastain is basically a paint that cannot be stripped off with a stain stripper. I would keep sanding.
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Hi, we are trying to remove wolmans durastain (applied 3 years ago). What is the best way to remove this finish? We have been sanding and sanding and sanding and still have stain to remove. Is there a stripper that will take of the remaining stuff? Will the stain absorb better if we use the stripper. We have been using 60 and 80 grit sandpaper--wond ering if that will prevent some of the stain from absorbing?

Any help would be GREATLY appreciated!

Thanks!
Deni
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re: Sealing a deck
First of all you prepped poorly and then probably over applied the CWF. That is probably why the stain dried like it did. I would strip it all off and start over with a better quality stain that penetrates better and more evenly.
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Sealing a deck
I had a deck built on my house about 1 year ago. Deciding it was time to seal it, I sprayed bleach on it with a garden sprayers and then pressure washed it. Let it dry for about a week and then applied the sealer. I used CWF with a roller and a brush applying 1 coat. It will not dry in places. It doesn't seem to matter if it is in the sun or not. My deck get heat of the day sun and I am in North Carolina. It looks like there are just places on the boards where it didn't dry and places where it did. It has been about 2 weeks since it was applied. Can you tell me why it didn't dry and what can be done now. It is just sticky in places and not comfortable to walk on in bare feet. Thank you
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re: Recommend a stain stripper
I would look at the Restore-A-Deck Stripper (www.opwdecks.com/.../)
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Recommend a stain stripper
I am look for a product to strip 8 years of Penofin and Olympic stains from cedar deck railing a fascia. The Main decking material is Trex.
What would you recommend?
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re: Arborcoat semi-solid acrylic stain
I am sorry but no stripper will remove the Arborcoat effectively. Arborcoat is almost like a paint. That is why it is peeling. Deck stain strippers will not remove this.
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Arborcoat semi-solid acrylic stain
I stained my deck (about 1,000 sf) with Arborcoat Semi-Solid stain last summer, and it is peeling a big time. I am very disappointed, and I have decided to strip all. Please advise me if HD80 works for Arborcoat semi-solid?

Thank you.
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re: Wood RX solid
There are no deck stain strippers on the market that will remove a solid (opaque) stain completely or effectively. Best would be to sand. Not possible to go around nails/screws. Try to counter sink them prior to sanding.
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Wood RX solid
The guy who built our deck used this stuff and it never stuck all the way. About half of the deck wood has no protection (3 yrs now) and the rest is stuck perfectly. I would like to strip the deck but I think this Wood RX is an acrylic and it would have to be sanded. Can you tell me if you have any experience with the Wood RX and if you think the HD80 would help take it off since for some reason it never really adhered very well. If I do have to sand, how do you do that around all the nails and screws, and yes he used both. Thanks for your help.
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re: Sikkens Cetol SRD
The HD80 should remove the Sikkens ad long as it is the SRD which is not the shiny varnish type.
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Sikkens Cetol SRD
I need to strip my deck of a natural oak stain Sikkens Cetol SRD that is peeling. I have about 700 sq. ft. Will the HD80 remove it, and if not what should I use.

Thanks
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re: I would like your recommendations
For best results I would use a stain stripper and wood brightener to prep. The Defy Extreme is slightly better then the Defy Epoxy.

Please read these articles for steps and how-to help:

Deck Restore Tips (www.opwdecks.com/.../)
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You offer a variety of cleaning/stain products and I would like your recommendations:
Application is for 450 sq ft, 20 yr old, pressure treated lumber deck
I have used the std big box store cleaners and sealers over the years
What I have used get dingy in 3 months
Do I need to use your stripper? and brightener?
Which is better stain for my app...epoxy or Nano?
Your overall recommendation and order of steps.
Thanks,
Don
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re: sikkens removal
Which Sikkens do you have? The "shiny varnish" type or the "dull penetrating" stain that does not leave a film on top of the wood. If it is the later then HD80 will work. If it is the "shiny varnish" type of Sikkens then nothing will get it off easily. You can still use HD80 to remove as much as possible but you will probably need to sand the rest off.

Two to three of the 2 pound containers of HD80 should work for 1000 feet.

All deck stain strippers including HD80 need to be neutralized. Citralic Brightener (www.opwdecks.com/.../)

I would look at hiring a deck restoration expert. There is a big difference between painting and restoring a deck.
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sikkens removal
i have an 11 year old pressure treated deck with 2 coats of sikkens on it badly in need of re-finishing. I am planning to use HD 80 but there is a warning about inexperienced people using this product. Will any other products actually remove Sikkens or should I take my chances using it myself. I actually have an experienced painter who will be doing the work, however he is not experienced at deck restoration. Secondly, my deck is somewhere between 800-1000 sq. feet, how much product will i need to purchase? Thirdly, does HD 80 (or the product you recommend) need neutralizing?
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re: Does all the old stain need to be gone before restaining?
I would remove as much as possible with a deck stain stripper (www.opwdecks.com/.../) otherwise you will run the risk of not adhering properly and it will look uneven. I would shoot for 90% removal or better.

Make sure to brighten again when done.
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Does all the old stain need to be gone before restaining?
I just bought a house that has a redwood deck with a semi-transparen t stain (I don't know the brand of stain). The old stain had aged evenly and there was no flaking or peeling. I wanted to apply a new semi-transparen t stain that is a similar color of the earlier semi-transparen t stain that was used on the deck. I have used a deck cleaner and then a deck brightener and a 1700 psi pressure washer to try to clean and prep the deck. The deck surface now shows portions where the raw wood is exposed as well as portions where the semi-transparen t stain still shows. Do I need to remove ALL the stain and have a completely raw layer of wood before I apply a similar color semi-transparen t stain?

Thanks for your help!
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re: Home Owner
Is the stain you applied a semi-transparen t or solid color? What brand was it?
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Home Owner
We just installed a 1500 sq ft deck last year, sanded and stained the deck. After finishing with the staining we completely hated the color and the look of the deck. The deck is a very dark ugly brown. We want to re-do it with a much more lighter / transparent stain, given the deck a more golden color.
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re we better off stripping the deck or resanding the deck?
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re: Behr removal
Behr is one of the most difficult stains to remove. Nothing easily removes it but I would go with this: HD80 (www.opwdecks.com/.../)
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i used a behr product on one of twenty decks ive done and it didnt go on even and i have to remove it now what can i use
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re: How do I strip new stain off a deck?
Removing a newly applied stain is difficult especially when a semi-solid as this is just below a solid color. There is not an "easy" way to do this. You will need to apply the stripper, let dwell, and repeat until off.

I would look at the HD80 Stripper (www.opwdecks.com/.../)
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How do I strip new stain off a deck?
I stained my deck this past week and got half way through and I despise the color. It is a redwood color and looks horrible with my house. It's a semi-solid oil based from Cabot. I purchased the stripper and powerwashed. Some (very little) came off. I need to get the remaining stain off my deck to restain. Any tips you can give me...
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re: construction administrator
You would need a graffiti remover and we do not sell that type of product.
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construction administrator
we have some IPE wood that was spray painted with grafitti- assuming it is an oil based spray paint- IPE wood not treated or stained.
Need suggestions on how to remove the paint.
thanks
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re: Behr Stained Deck
Behr is one of the hardest stains to remove. It is basically a transparent paint.

I would strip as much as you can, sand the rest, then brighten when done.

With the HD80, try letting the stripper dwell for 30 minutes or longer misting with water to keep active.
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re: Lap Marks
I would look at one of these stains for removing the Cabot:

Defy Stain Stripper
HD80
Stripex-L
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I am working on a deck with several years of Behr &*(^ on it. The HD80 removes only about 50% after 2 applications. I have never tried to remove this junk before and I have some of your A-Clark to apply when clean.
My question is this: since this may take awhile along with some sanding how long can I wait to apply the brightener? and is there any order for the HD80,sanding and brightener that is best? Other than burning down the deck of course.
Thanks.
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Lap Marks
I used the new Cabot's Australian Timber Oil (Blue Lid) stain on a brand new Mahogany deck. I have always used Cabot's Timber Oil, but it was the older product (silver lid). I stained 2 decks within a week of each other-- one with the old product and one with the new product. The deck stained with the old product came out great but the deck stained with the new product had a ridiculous amount of lap marks.
I want to strip the deck and start over. What would be the best product to use to strip the deck seeing as it was only stained a week ago and it's a mahogany deck.
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re: Bad deck stain
Best to use a deck stain stripper (www.opwdecks.com/.../) to remove the stain.
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Bad deck stain
Have a deck that had a semi-transparen t stain applied last month. It never dried and is still sticky. How do I get it off and begin anew?

Thanks in advance.
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re: deck stain removal
I would look at the HD80 (www.opwdecks.com/.../)
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deck stain removal
hi i want change the colour off my decking it is stained with cuprinol decking stain could u please advise which stripper would be best to use , thanks .
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re: I need to strip a deck
HD80 is a very good stain stripper but unfortunately nothing removes a polyurethane effectively or easily.
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I need to strip a deck
I need to strip a deck, it has stain and it looks like one coat of poliurethane on top, friend on my told me to use heavy duty stripper HD-80 extreme solutions, is this good or not?
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I would try to strip off as much as possible then if needed sand the remaining.

Stain Strippers (www.opwdecks.com/.../)
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i used Olympic maximum deck stain, semi transparent penetrating acrylic oil formula neutral based mixed to oak color(#708).
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re: i stained my deck with semi stransparent stain
What brand and type of stain did you use? Makes a huge difference as if sanding, stripping or a recoat is needed.
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i stained my deck with semi stransparent stain. it rained that evening. i guess thats why its all spotted. do i need to sand down the stain? will a stain stripper remove it? or can i just recoat. if you suggest sanding please tell me what kind of machinery is best to use. thanks
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re: I'm trying to strip Defy Extreme Clear from an Ipe deck
I would look at the Defy Stain Stripper (www.opwdecks.com/.../) as it is designed to remove their products.
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I'm trying to strip Defy Extreme Clear from an Ipe deck. I used a caustic based deck stripper from Cabot and it did not seem to have much effect. Is there a better choice for removing this type of finish?
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As long as the Behr is removed then there would not be any orange tint left.

Using a wood cleaner is the normal way to prep the deck for re coating. All of the stains we sell are penetrating stains. Penetrating stains can typically just be cleaned and re coated without stripping. The exception would be if a stain was over applied or a buildup of coatings over many years.

One of the reasons that Behr has so many issues is that is "films" on top of the wood instead of penetrating into the wood.
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Behr
I know I can't simply cover the Behr, just didn't know if after the HD80 and the brightener, if there would still be an orange tinge on that part of the deck that wouldn't match the other parts of the deck (that haven't been touched by the Behr).

What is the best way to "clean" a stain (if it can be reapplied without stripping)? Could you list the ones where this process would not be compatible with the product? Just hoping to make a better choice than Behr this time :-/
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