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Jan 18

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Wood and Deck RestorationAsk any questions regarding exterior wood and deck restoration. Questions can relate to wood fences, wood decks, wood homes, etc. If you have a question on your wood project then this is the best place to ask.

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If the cleaner does not work then try the stripper and pressure washing for the prep. Use the Restore a Deck Stripper.
TheSealerStore , October 07, 2016
tiger wood deck restoration
I have several tiger wood decks that where installed about 10 years ago. The first year the decks where treated with penofin stain in a lighter color. The following year they where treated with a darker penofin. Over the years the decks have weathered and oxidized to a silver grey. I would like to bring back the original color. Do I need to start with a stripper or just a cleaner? I have tried a few cleaners in the past but nothing has even touched the silver color.
Merel A Jones , October 07, 2016
Yes, you can do this.
TheSealerStore , October 06, 2016
Mixing of Defy expose and Defy Extreme
I have a little bit of Defy Epoxy natural pine left over from previous staining of my deck. I am about to restain (after stripping and brightening) with Defy Extreme light walnut. Would it be OK to mix these two stains before applying so I can use up the old stain?

Greg2277 , October 06, 2016
These will last about the same. One is not going to last longer than the other with both needing to be reapplied every 2-3 years.
TheSealerStore , September 30, 2016
Defy or TWP
I am restaining a 20 year old pressure treated pine deck. The deck is under pretty heavy shade and is subject to getting mold, mildew, etc. I live in TN.

Which of Defy extreme or TWP 100 would be likely to last longest for my application before needing restaining?

Greg2277 , September 29, 2016
Wood deck restoration in Central OK
I have a large treated pine deck that is 5 years old. Four years ago we "stained" it with Behr Premium solid color Deck, Fence & Siding Weatherproofing Wood Stain. The stain is peeling so badly that the deck looks horrible. What products would you recommend to make my deck beautiful again?

Thank you in advance

Susan Zeuch , September 25, 2016
Most apply the Stripper with a pump sprayer and then pressure wash off. You cannot just rinse off. Scrubbing does help. Correct on the Brightener. Just apply and rinse after 15 minutes.
TheSealerStore , September 22, 2016
Please call to order the Butternut color.
TheSealerStore , September 22, 2016
Defy butternut sample
I tried to order a sample of this but it was not listed. Is there any way I can get a sample?

Greg2277 , September 22, 2016
Stripper and brightener application
What is the best way to apply RAD stripper? The instructions mention the coverage when applying with a pressure washer which sounds like it might be an easy method, but I have read that pressure washing is generally not good for the wood. If applied with a pressure washer, what is the proper technique to use?

Or is it best to use a pump sprayer. It so is the stripper just sprayed on, allowed to dwell and then rinsed off? Or does it need to be scrubbed with a brush to clean and remove old stain well? I noted in a response to another question that it can be rinsed off with pressure washer. Does that eliminate the need for scrubbing?

As for brightener, it's my understanding that it is just sprayed on, allowed to dwell and rinsed off, with no need for scrubbing. Is that correct?

Greg2277 , September 22, 2016
Strip with the RAD Stripper as suggested. Yes it is best to strip if going with a darker Butternut. You would need about 2 of the RAD Strippers and 2 of the RAD Brighteners to neutralize.
TheSealerStore , September 22, 2016
TWP 100 is only complaint in about 30 states.
TWP 1500 is very similar to the 100 but can be sued in all US states.
TWP 200 is for shakes and shingles. Roofs and siding.
TheSealerStore , September 22, 2016
TWP stains
All of the TWP stain descriptions seem very similar. Can you explain more about the differences in the 100, 1500 and 200 series?

BOBLEW , September 22, 2016
I like the Defy stain I used previously, I think largely because of less odor and easy water clean up. Other than TWP being available in darker colors, how would you compare Defy and TWP stains as to longevity and protection? I do have a lot of shade and get a lot of mold and mildew which I understand affect oil based stains like TWP more than water based stains.

If I strip deck, do you recommend RAD stripper rather than something like HD-80?

My square footage is about 1,000 including deck, rails and steps. How much RAD stripper do you recommend for this size? Also if I use the RAD kit of cleaner and brightener, which size would I need?

If I do use the Defy Butternut, could it be applied over the existing Defy natural pine or would I need to strip for that?


Greg2277 , September 22, 2016
If you go darker it would be best to strip and brighten for the prep with the Restore A Deck Kits. The Butternut is more of a medium brown in color. For a darker color, look at the TWP in Dark Oak.
TheSealerStore , September 21, 2016
Defy colors
I want to restain an older pressure treated pine deck that was previously stained with Defy epoxy natural pine. I'm thinking I may want to go with a darker stain this time to cover some of dark spots that remain after prep as well as to get a little longer life from the stain. I ordered a sample of light walnut but it seems to have just a different tint, but is not really much darker. Would the butternut be darker, and would it look OK applied over the old natural pine stain, much of which has warn off now? Or are there other brands that have darker color options that would be good to consider?
Greg2277 , September 21, 2016
re: Deck sanding
If you sand, do not spot sand as the stain will apply blotchy. Sand all wood evenly. Sanding may also reduce the stain's penetration into the wood if too smooth. We suggest a coarser sand at around 60 or 80 grit.

The cleaners has a shelf life after mixed with water. Couple of hours. Neither has a shelf life while in powder form.
TheSealerStore , September 16, 2016
Deck sanding
I'm restraining an older pressure treated pine deck and plan to use RAD cleaner and brightener, and Defy stain.

Is it OK to sand out the darker places which the RAD prep does not take out? Is there any downside to sanding? I think, for example, I may have read that it takes the finish off the nail heads and makes them more subject to rusting. Is any additional prep needed after sanding? Or should sanding be done before RAD prep?

Also, do the RAD prep products and Defy stain have any limits on shelf after opening?

Greg2277 , September 16, 2016
Brighten right after done cleaning, while wood is wet. Wait 48 hours to dry and stain.
TheSealerStore , September 13, 2016
Time between cleaning, brightening and staining
I plan to stain my deck this fall (Tennessee) using Restore a Deck kit and Defy stain.

What is the suggested minimum and maximum time to allow between cleaning and brightening and between brightening and staining?

Thanks very much.
Gatwood , September 12, 2016
You would have to re clean and brighten next Spring. If you cannot find the weather to cooperate this year, you will be fine to let it sit over the Winter.
TheSealerStore , September 04, 2016
Leaving a freshly sanded deck over winter and staining next summer
I am trying to have a cedar deck sanded to remove previous failed stain, cleaned, brightened and stained again with ArmstrongClark stain purchased from you. Unfortunately, here in Alberta temperatures started to drop while at the same time there are still rainy days every few days or so, such that it is hard to find several days without rain and/or warm enough to sand the deck (the deck has to be dry) and then wait another two days before staining. What would happen if we manage to sand/clean/brighten the deck but we don't manage to stain it and we'll have to leave it like that over fall, winter and spring to stain next year? Should we postpone the entire job/project for next summer?
Stefan Bachu , September 02, 2016
Two coats applied wet on wet.
TheSealerStore , July 25, 2016
One or Two Coats for Stain for Fir
I am refinishing a fir deck with Defy Extreme stain. Should I apply one or two coats for this wood?
RobertLSarno , July 25, 2016
No, they are both safe.
TheSealerStore , July 22, 2016
Would citric brightener like Extreme Solutions be safer for kids than RAD brightener?
Granddad , July 21, 2016
re: swing set for grandkids
Prep with out Restore A Deck kits for this. Once done, stain with Defy Extreme.
TheSealerStore , July 21, 2016
Best to remove as much as possible. Strip off what you can and brighten all wood when done.
TheSealerStore , July 21, 2016
The Defy Extreme has replaced the Defy Epoxy. You can clean and brighten and apply over it. We would suggest the Restore A Deck Kits for the prep. As for color, depends on what you are looking for. You should be able to go darker without stripping being needed.
TheSealerStore , July 21, 2016
Restaining deck with Defy
I live in Tennessee and have a 20 year old pressure treated pine deck. I cleaned, stripped and stained with Defy epoxy natural pine several years and it needs restaining. I was fairly pleased with the Defy product.

Would you recommend using Defy again and is it OK to use Defy Extreme over the old Defy epoxy without stripping? Is there a darker semi-transparent that would be good to use over the natural pine?

If stripping is not required, should cleaning with oxygenated bleach be adequate before sealing? Is a brightener needed after cleaning with oxygenated bleach? Would you recommend Extreme Solutions citric brightener?

Thanks very much
Gatwood , July 21, 2016
My grandkids have a swing set that is either cedar or redwood. It is very gray and weathered and probably has never been stained or sealed. I would like to know the best way to restore this deck in place with something very safe since the kids will be using that area after the work is finished.

From doing some reading on your site, it sounds like an oxygenated bleach product would be safe, but an oxalic acid brightener would be somewhat hazardous.

Is oxygenated bleach the best way to do this and is there a safer brightener than oxalic acid? Also does it matter whether the wood is cedar or redwood as to the best way to treat it?

Thanks very much
Granddad , July 21, 2016
How important to strip off old stain?
I am cleaning a fir deck to prepare it for restaining using the same stain and color. The are are some spots where the old stain remains. Given that I am not changing the stain color, do I need to use a stripper to remove the remaining old stain, which is proving very difficult, or can I simply clean and brighten the wood prior to applying the new finish?
RobertLSarno , July 20, 2016
Is the wood smooth or rough sawn cut? If smooth you need to wait a few months and prep. If rough, you can stain now. Look at the TWP 1500 Series.
TheSealerStore , July 20, 2016
Stain for wood fence in Pacific Northwest
What is the best stain for a new wood fence which is suitable for the wet winters of Pacific Northwest?
Do I need to prep or season the new wood ?
Poonam , July 19, 2016
About two weeks.
TheSealerStore , July 14, 2016
How long is the effect good for before it has to be re-cleaned and brightened? Or does it (if it rained for a week or something)
cp , July 14, 2016
re: restore-a-deck to clean and brighten
Wait 48 hours after prep. If it rains after the prep, you will need to wait 48 hours after the rain.
TheSealerStore , July 14, 2016
Plan on using restore-a-deck to clean and brighten my deck then re-stain with Armstrong-clark. It has been raining or showers almost everyday. How long can I wait after cleaning and brightening the deck before staining?
Do I need to wait til I get no rain to clean/brighten so I can stain when dry or what?
cp , July 13, 2016
re: used your products to periodically refinish his IPE dock
Not sure on which products you are referring to? We sell numerous.
TheSealerStore , July 11, 2016
business owner
I have a client in miami beach that has said they have used your products to periodically refinish his IPE dock. I am trying to get information on the product(s) and procedure to use them. We are used to having to sand the dock down before applying the sealer again, but he is saying with your products they did not have to sand down first. Any assistance would be appreciated.
john anthony , July 11, 2016
All the stains we sell are made in the USA.
TheSealerStore , July 01, 2016
Are this stain made in USA ?
Are this stain made in USA ?

Leonid Lyasota , July 01, 2016
re: Advice for next time?
I bet it was pollen. Pollen is a mold feeder and can stick the to the TWP as drying. The TWP lasts about 2-3 years. Try to redo the deck after the pollen has stopped.
TheSealerStore , June 28, 2016
Advice for next time?
I live in Raleigh, NC and asked for advice on this site after my previous treatment only lasted 1 year. In fall 2014, I bought the Restore-A-Deck Package and TWP 100 Series based on the recommendations. I was unable to do the work until spring 2015. It was a 2 weekend process, making sure I followed the steps but the deck looked great. Starting in the spring this year I noticed a little mildew on the deck in spots. Fast forward 2 months and I see a lot of black mildew everywhere. After only 14-16 months it looks like I need to redo my deck. Any suggestions or thoughts where I went wrong? I know I live in a wet, humid climate and the deck is also in the shade a lot in the warmer months but exposed in the colder months but shouldn't the deck treatment last longer than just a year? Thank you.
John M. , June 28, 2016
re: Time shipping to Ontario Canada ?
2-4 days.
TheSealerStore , June 22, 2016
Time shipping to Ontario Canada ?
LEONID LYASOTA , June 22, 2016
Time shipping to Ontario Canada ?
LEONID LYASOTA , June 22, 2016
re: ship to Ontario Canada 60 gallon
I am sorry but we do not discount when shipping to Canada.
TheSealerStore , June 21, 2016
I'm going to buy and ship to Ontario Canada 60 gallon ( 12 x 5 ) can I have discount for my big order?
LEONID LYASOTA , June 21, 2016
re: 20 yr. old pressure treated pine deck
You cannot apply anything over the Cabot. it needs to be removed when switching brands of stain. if you do not remove the cabot, then the new coating will not be able to penetrate and will fail. Once removed, we highly not suggest the SW products. They have bad reviews. Try the Armstrong Clark or TWP stain.
TheSealerStore , May 06, 2016
Hi. We have a 20 yr. old pressure treated pine deck receiving 7 hrs. of full sun a day outside Phila., PA. Maintained every 3 yrs. ourselves simply with cleaning and top coat of Cabot oil semi transparent stain for a total of 6 coatings which held up fairly well over each 3 year time frame. Never wanted to use a solid stain fearing peeling issues. Having pros handle it this year. Professional #1 says after prep he would suggest oil based Deckscape Sherwin/W product, but says he will use whatever OIL OR WATER semi transparent stain we would like him to use. Professional #2 says, after prep, that he wants to use Sherwin/W SOLID water based stain only and tells us that semi transparent stain will no longer adhere - although the Cabot we used adhered perfectly 6 times in 18 years. There is a $1,000 difference in the bids. I'm interested in what prep steps actually need to be taken; whether I can use a semi transparent oil based product by a different manufacturer over the last used oil Semi/T Cabot stain; and whether a water based semi transparent stain
from a different manufacturer can be used over the last used oil Semi/T Cabot stain. Any guidance you could offer as professionals would be greatly appreciated. Thanks for your time.
Gina Lagore , May 06, 2016
Yes on RAD Stain stripper. Both AC and Defy will about last the same for your wood. Your wood type will require an annual cleaning and recoating.
TheSealerStore , April 26, 2016
Thank you for your help!!! With a deck in Georgia in full sun a good part of the day would you recommend the AC semi transparent over the defy or AC clear for better protection and less weathering? And RAD or stripping? Thank you again!!
Rachel , April 26, 2016
Yes stripping will work. Does not matter that you cleaned first. The stripping will get the wood a more even appearance. Defy Hardwoods or AC in Amber or Mahogany colors will work.
TheSealerStore , April 26, 2016
1 year old garapa and Ipe deck
I have a 1 year old garapa Ipe deck that was sealed with Messmers UV clear last year after construction. It has weathered and grayed and was just cleaned and brightened. I still have areas that are uneven or do not appear as clean and clear as others (I.e those under tables pots that were not exposed to the elements) and some stains and unevenness. First, would it be best to attempt stripping at this point, is that safe to do so soon after cleaning/brightening? The plan is to seal this year with a different product that will hopefully protect better? Looking at Defy and Armstrong- thoughts? And THANK YOU for your time and consideration!!
Rachel , April 25, 2016
Most likely is is rust stains and you cannot surface clean these to remove. You can try a wood brightener to remove them but if the stains are extremely deep then they will not come out all the way. Before using a wood brightener your will have to clean the deck to remove dirt, oxidation, etc. You then apply the wood brightener and let it sit on the deck for 20-30 minutes. Use the Restore A Deck Kits.
TheSealerStore , February 11, 2016
Metal Stains
Deck is year old PT and has some deep looking metal stains ( iron sculptures?). I live in Raleigh NC area. Can you recommend cleaning procedure/products? Thanks.
2old2soon , February 11, 2016
re: Painted deck
Sorry but we do not sell any deck paints off this website. They are semi-transparent, transparent, and semi-solid stains that cannot be applied over a Deck Paint.
TheSealerStore , January 26, 2016
Painted deck
My deck was spray painted 3 years ago with Sherwin Williams Landscapes Deck Paint. It is starting to fade and I want to paint over it. I prefer not to strip it. Deck is approximately 400 sq ft. Do you have along lasting paint that can be used. I prefer something that will keep water out (seal the deck) as it has a patio under it.
Richard Schuster , January 26, 2016
re: Dock sealing
You will need to wait about 3 months. You will also need to prep by using a deck cleaner and wood brightener after waiting. Use the Restore A Deck Kits that we sell. No stain/color means it will not provide UV protection from graying. Are you okay with having your wood turn gray? If so you can use a clear sealer like the Defy Extreme Clear or the TWP in Clear.
TheSealerStore , January 06, 2016
Dock sealing
I am getting a new dock and boat house installed and want to know when and what I should use to seal it. It will be built with treated lumber. I live in the south on the Gulf Coast. The dock is on a river but within 15 miles to the coast.

How long should I wait before sealing it? I know sometimes treated lumber is still kind of wet when installed.

What type of sealer? I do not want a stain I just want to seal it.

DanW , January 06, 2016
re: Some local contractors in my area use bleach to clean decks. What's your take on it?
Bleach is known to damage the lignin of the wood. Best to use a deck cleaner like the Restore A Deck products.
opwdecks , January 01, 2016
Some local contractors in my area use bleach to clean decks. What's your take on it?

Thanks, Gary
Gary Borgeson , December 29, 2015
re: Staining Replacement Boards on Remodeled Deck
If you stain to early without seasoning and prep then the Defy may not penetrate and it could prematurely fail.
TheSealerStore , October 20, 2015
Staining Replacement Boards on Remodeled Deck
I have recently added an extension to my PT pine deck. In the process some of the decking boards on the old section of the deck needed to be replaced. The new boards have not been seasoned for 3 to 6 months as recommended, however, I don't want to stain only the "old" boards and leave the new untreated.

What will happen, if I apply Defy stain to the new boards before they have aged?
JAH , October 19, 2015
Not easy to spot sand and blend without it showing as a larger spot. We have never had good results with this attempt.
TheSealerStore , October 14, 2015
Thanks for the reply. This deck was done two-tone, with a beige solid stain applied to the balusters for contrast. Unfortunately, when these were painted, they dripped some of the solid stain onto the deck boards in several spots. They tried to wipe them up, but now they are showing through the stain. Do you think it would be possible to sand this out in a few of the most obvious spots and then touch it up with some more stain? That's what happens when I let my brother paint the railings! smilies/tongue.gif
Tom in KY , October 14, 2015
Leave as is. You can always apply a light coat next year of needed.
TheSealerStore , October 14, 2015
Second coat of Armstrong Clark needed?
We applied one coat of AC Cedar Semi to a PT pine deck on Saturday. It looks good, but we are wondering if a second coat is needed on the horizontal surfaces for durability, or if it is OK as is. If second coat is needed, what is the longest we can go before additional prep is needed? It has been several days since the first coat. Thanks!
Tom in KY , October 14, 2015
re: IPE siding
You should prep first with the Restore a Deck Stripper and pressure washing to remove. Apply a wood brightener when done. As for the stain, look at the Armstrong Clark in Mahogany or Amber color. Also the Defy Hardwood Stain. Messmers will work as well.
TheSealerStore , October 13, 2015
IPE siding
I have a modern house that has ipe siding. Messemers natural oil was applied. It was not cleaned nor brightened before oil was applied. I live in Georgia with high humidity and plenty of sun. The ipe has bleached out in many parts....vey uneven. Is this the right product to use.
Joan Rearick , October 13, 2015
re: Drying time
1-2 days is normal but make sure that the stain has fully cured and dried before walking on it.
TheSealerStore , September 22, 2015
Drying time
How long should the owner be off of the deck after it's stained with Armstrong Clark stain (which I recently purchased and now ready to have the deck stained)? Nominal temps are daylight between 65-80 deg. F.?
Rick Bajackson , September 22, 2015
Prep with the Restore A Deck Kits and stain with the same Defy. No need to strip unless you want to switch to the TWP.
TheSealerStore , September 06, 2015
Cedar Deck Questions
I last used a DEFY semi-transparent product 4-5 years ago on my large 20 year old cedar deck, and the stain on the horizontal surfaces has completely worn away and the wood has grayed, with mildewing in some spots. Still have fairly good coverage on the vertical surfaces and on a gazebo. What is needed to refinish the horizontal surfaces? Should I strip, clean, and brighten? I was considering a solid stain product, but don't want to have to consider sanding for future removal. Should I stick with DEFY or TWP semi-transparent products? This job will require replacing some decking and railings before I begin. Thank you!
Duane , September 06, 2015
Just lightly wash with water to remove dirt should be good enough. If it starts to gray then you will need to redo the whole process.
TheSealerStore , August 29, 2015
We installed new deck boards on my parents deck back in the spring. Last week I hit it with the RAD cleaner & brightener. We were planning to stain it with Armstrong Clark semi cedar tone, but now I have had some commitments come up this weekend that will keep me from getting to it, and next week we are out of town for Labor Day. If I have to wait several weeks before applying the stain, will I need to clean / brighten the deck again? We are in the Ohio Valley, and the weather has been very mild and dry lately. No trees to drop stuff above the deck, so it should stay pretty clean. Deck gets morning and afternoon sun, late afternoon/evening shade. THanks!
Tom in KY , August 28, 2015
Yes it can be used on concrete and at same concentration.
TheSealerStore , August 25, 2015
RAD and Concrete
Can the RAD Cleaner be used on concrete for cleaning? If so at what concentration?
Btw thanks for all your help and prompt responses!
Specky , August 25, 2015
Re: PT wood turning white!
Either is fine as long as you are 1-2 feet away and just rinsing.
TheSealerStore , August 25, 2015
Re: PT wood turning white!
In Regards to my previous post would you recommend a concentration of 1 oz of RAD cleaner per gallon of water? Also would you use a pressure washer to rinse or the garden hose?
Specky , August 25, 2015
re: PT wood turning white!
Try a lighter concentration and rinse lightly without scrubbing. I am think you bristle brush is agitating the stain too much. You will be fine and the color will return when the stain is applied.
TheSealerStore , August 24, 2015
PT wood turning white!
I would like to reapply the A/C semi cedar on our PT deck as indicated in a previous post. (Stained last year with great results) As instructed in the previous post I tested a small area of the RAD cleaner mixed at a concentration of 2 oz per gallon, applied with a soft bristle brush, and rinsed well. I noticed that the RAD cleaner is removing the A/C stain, and turning the PT wood very white. Before I continue cleaning my deck; is this to be expected and should I continue?smilies/cry.gif
Specky , August 24, 2015

1. Possibly but test first
2. Yes
3. Yes
4. Discoloration
TheSealerStore , July 21, 2015
Thanks!! A few follow-on questions . . .

1. do I need to mask the aluminum trim if it is painted/coated?
2. I am doing my daughters deck first and will do my deck next. I have aluminum siding . . . do I need mask my aluminum siding?
3. do I need to protect the aluminum for all three products, the stripper, cleaner and brightener?
4, What happens to aluminum if it is exposed to the cleaners?

Thanks in advance!!
Tom , July 19, 2015

The only thing you really need to worry about is the aluminum trim. Protect that with plastic. The vinyl, concrete, and grass should be prewet and rinse well from all overspray.
TheSealerStore , July 17, 2015
I purchased your stripper, cleaner, brightener products. The deck to be restored is about 12 feet above ground and sits above a concrete patio. The deck is also next to vinyl siding, and is next to a screened window and metal sliding door. Some trim is aluminum. I would also likely get some overspray of these products onto a vinyl fence below as well as the grass lawn. How well do I need to mask and protect these different areas from each of the three cleaning products . . . .stripper, cleaner, brightener?

Tom , July 16, 2015
No you cannot apply the cleaner or sand after the stain is applied to remove. Knots will always be lighter in color. This is due to the density of the wood. Maybe a very light coat of the AC will make it look richer and less noticeable.
TheSealerStore , July 13, 2015
I have applied the AC Semi-Trans Cedar stain to my deck and unfortunately the fuzzies and grey knots are showing through after 24hrs of drying. Anything I can do now to improve the look? Apply the cleaner and scrub again? Should I lightly sand it? Thx.

1. Knots being lighter in color is normal. Knot much you can do.
2. You can stain over the fuzzies. Just make sure the deck is rinsed well. In most cases the stain will darken the wood so they do not stand out anyhow.

TheSealerStore , July 09, 2015

Erik , July 12, 2015
Replace the rotting wood.
TheSealerStore , July 10, 2015
Replace or not to replace
there are a couple of peaces of wood on my deck that have soft spots from the rain should I replace them or just paint over them with a good paint?
Bunk , July 09, 2015
1. Knots being lighter in color is normal. Knot much you can do.
2. You can stain over the fuzzies. Just make sure the deck is rinsed well. In most cases the stain will darken the wood so they do not stand out anyhow.
TheSealerStore , July 09, 2015
Wow, after applying the cleaner, a good couple hours of elbow grease, and the brightener, my untreated cedar deck is already looking much nicer (mill glaze and rust water spots removed too). I had a couple of questions before staining:

1) The knots on my cedar deck are still looking grey after cleaning, scrubbing and brightening. Is this normal? Anything else I can do?

2) I definitely have the fuzzies after prepping as you predicted. What can I use if I don't have access to a buffer? Of can I skip this step and just stain on top of the fuzzies?


re: Mill glaze, rust water spots, light areas/fuzzies on untreated cedar

It will remove some but you may get the fuzzies after the cleaner. This happens when you are removing a heavy layer of gray oxidation from the exposed wood. I would suggest cleaning first. Let dry then lightly buff the floor to remove any fuzzies if they occur. Brighten and rinse well with water when done.

TheSealerStore , June 17, 2015 smilies/sad.gif
Erik , July 08, 2015
re: Cedar deck maintenance
There is not an easier way. Has to be prepped properly and maintained every 2-3 years. This is normal.
TheSealerStore , July 07, 2015
Cedar deck maintenance
Every two years your products are used to clean, brighten, and seal the natural looking wood. What is the best way to maintain the look without the major work of cleaning-scrubbing, whitening, and sealing every year? Thanks.
Jim Weaver , July 06, 2015
re: Boat House deck in central texas
The Defy over the Penofin.
TheSealerStore , July 06, 2015
Boat House deck in central texas
I need to restore a deck on a boat house on a freshwater lake in central Texas. Part of the deck is covered and part is exposed. The deck was built around 8 years ago but never stained. I know that I will need to clean the deck prior to staining. Overall its in good shape as it was built with treated wood. You seem to like the Defy products. I am considering their marine stain, however, I see that Penofin has an oil based product for marine use. Which would you suggest for my application. Thanks
CP , July 05, 2015
Use the cleaner but at a low concentration of 2-3 oz per gallon of water.
TheSealerStore , July 05, 2015
Re-applying A/C
Do I need to use RAD wood brightener prior to applying a maintenance coat of A/C semi transparent cedar, or just the cleaner on my pt deck? Reposting as original comment not shown.
Specky , July 05, 2015
1. No stripper will remove a solid stain with Arborcoat on top.
2. Either sand it all off or replace. If rotting we would replace.
TheSealerStore , July 04, 2015
Too old to refinish? (Not me, the deck.)
Is it worth refinishing? We started with a Behr Wood Stain and Finish Stripper which didn't work after 2 coats. (The deck is SW Deckscapes solid stain on bottom, BM ArborCoat on top. )
1. Is there a stripper that works on those products?
2. Is it worth refinishing a 15 yr. old cedar deck? It has started to get some dry rot in just a few boards around screws/ends. Some boards replaced last year did not have rot underneath even though this is a ground-level deck. (Seattle area, full sun.) Or should we replace deck boards?
Terri , July 04, 2015
The Penofin darkens, not the wood. Strip it and brighten for the prep and it should be lighter.
TheSealerStore , June 30, 2015
That meranti has gotten very dark over the years. will a deck brightener have much effect on tropical hardwood?
Rob W , June 30, 2015
Thanks - I'll check them out!
Rob W , June 28, 2015
Use either the Armstrong Clark in the Amber or Mahogany colors or the Defy Hardwood Stain. Both do not need to be wiped dry.
TheSealerStore , June 28, 2015
changing finish products
I have a deck of Blue Star meranti which I have treated for years with Penofin hardwood penetrating oil. Has worked well but I'm sick of spending a day on my knees wiping on and wiping off. It has been 2 years since last application and I'd like to switch to 'apply and dry' type product. The oil has dried out pretty much, so I hope not to have to strip it.
Any suggestions on product and transition process for me? I'm in the Boston area, so humid summers and snowy winters. Thanks for sharing your experience!

Rob W , June 27, 2015
Use a penetrating oil based stain like the Armstrong clark or the TWP 100 Series. Both can be redone very couple of years by using the RAD kits.
TheSealerStore , June 27, 2015
Deck Refinish Kansas City Climate
What deck stain would you recommend for the Kansas City climate? I have a cedar deck that had not been stained/sealed in 10+ years. I've just cleaned and brightened it with the Restore-A-Deck system. It looks pretty good right now except for 2 boards that need replaced. The deck is subject to quite a bit of heat mid-afternoon but it's also under trees and I battle mildew, lichens, algae on the north half. I'd like a semi-transparent penetrating stain that I don't necessarily have to sand or strip every 2 years to re-apply. It would be ideal if I could just use the Restore A Deck system every 2 years and re-stain. I live in Kansas and I'm not subject to any VOC regulations that I'm aware of. I've got no preference oil vs water-based. Thanks.
Brian L , June 26, 2015
No it is not related to the cleaner but more to the wood itself. You always have to prep new wood.
TheSealerStore , June 22, 2015
Brand new garapa cleaned for uv prep is now dull greenish color!
We just finished installing new garapa decking with an Ipe border. The lumber was stacked and had about 3 weeks to acclimate (in rain as well) before construction. Before applying the Messmers UV, we were told to use the part A cleaner to remove some dirt and tiny black spots. After cleaning and rinsing, the brand new garapa decking has dried to a duller shade, with a very visible greenish tint to it and some boards are a dull grayish!! I have contacted Messmers and they recommend cleaning again and brightening. Have you ever heard of this on brand new decking after using an oxygenated cleaner? We didn't expect this amount of prep before sealing new wood and now are very worried that our brand new garapa could be damaged? Help and thank you!!
Rachel , June 22, 2015
Re: Prepping Previous Stained Deck
Sure but use the RAD cleaner at a low concentration of 2-4 oz per gallon of water.
TheSealerStore , June 18, 2015
Re: Prepping Previous Stained Deck
Thanks for your prompt response, but one more question to clarify.
Would you recommend using the RAD deck cleaner, but not the brightener before I reapply the one coat of AC?
Mike Van Der Spek , June 18, 2015
Use a deck cleaner and then lightly scrub the deck with a soft bristle brush to remove all dirt. Reapply one coat of the AC.
TheSealerStore , June 17, 2015
Prepping Previous Stained Deck
Last summer we applied Armstrong and Clark semi transparent deck stain with great results. I noticed some fading, and would like to re-apply the stain. What process do I follow to properly prep the deck for another coat of the same stain, The deck is PT wood. Also my question is what do I clean the deck with?
Mike Van Der Spek , June 17, 2015
re: Mill glaze, rust water spots, light areas/fuzzies on untreated cedar
It will remove some but you may get the fuzzies after the cleaner. This happens when you are removing a heavy layer of gray oxidation from the exposed wood. I would suggest cleaning first. Let dry then lightly buff the floor to remove any fuzzies if they occur. Brighten and rinse well with water when done.
TheSealerStore , June 17, 2015
Mill glaze, rust water spots, light areas/fuzzies on untreated cedar

I'm going to be purchasing the following shortly for my 1-year old cedar deck that is looking grey and has never been stained:

1) Restore-A-Deck Cleaner
2) Restore-A-Deck Brightener
3) Armstrong Clark Semi-Transparent Cedar Stain

However, I have some mill glaze at the ends of a few boards, some rust water droplet stains from patio furniture and some lighter colored areas/fuzzies due to heavy abrasion (was trying to scrub out other stains).

Should I do something else to these areas before I apply the cleaner/brightener/stain? Or will the Restore-A-Deck products clean it up?

Erik , June 17, 2015
Oil penetrates better then water based in general. You will be good with the AC as described.
TheSealerStore , June 09, 2015
Hi again. Thanks for your prompt reply.

From several readings and a basic understanding of the physics and harmful effects of UV, I realize that transparent stains will deteriorate faster than semi-transparent or opaque (solid or 'paint') stains.

From your response, I gather that an oil based penetrating stain is preferable. May I ask why? ...as opposed to a water based penetrating stain in my situation?

So, without further ado, I take it that I don't need to be concerned about re-settling the Ph level after the cleaning with BEHR All in One + pressure washing and removing all of the previous stain?

In short: I conclude that I am good to go with AC! ...to refinish the deck and expect to re-coat it in 1-2 years - which is roughly what I got out of the last BEHR oil based stain I used effectively for several years before the 5+ years hiatus just passed.

To be clear I 'maintained' the last BEHR finish, with a good cleaning every 2-3 years and a re-applying of 1 coat (...or 2 coats; not sure I remember all the re-coat details, but it worked well for me for 18-20 years!).

Thanks again for your feedback and reminder!


cadesmarais , June 09, 2015
re: Refinishing 500 sq ft Southern Yellow Pine (treated) deck
Make sure all old Behr stain has been removed. Look at the AC but take inconsideration that transparents need to be redone very 1-2 years and semi-transparents are every 2 maybe 3 years.
TheSealerStore , June 08, 2015
Refinishing 500 sq ft Southern Yellow Pine (treated) deck
Hi, I live on the outskirts of Montréal, Québec. I just finished cleaning our deck using BEHRs All in One Deck Cleaner (+ pressure washing) and was about start refinishing with 5 gallons of BEHRs Transparent Wood Finish in cedar tone. But then it rained for a day and I found time to read on DeckStainHelp that BEHRs stain is amongst the worst: – tricky to apply to avoid overlapping, flaking in less than 2 years and very difficult to strip, if one decides to refinish a blemished surface. DSH recommended Defy Extreme and Armstrong Clark.

The deck is 20 inches off the ground, has a north and western exposure with sun protection up to midday by the house and trees to the west in late afternoon – probably 4-5 hours a day of direct sun exposure. The deck was originally finished with a now discontinued transparent oil based BEHR product that I read a few years ago was the subject of several lawsuits including a class action.

Despite its age and greying, the deck is solid; surfaces are generally in good shape with isolated cracks and spots of rot on some boards (surprisingly, most board damage is found on edge boards). All horizontal surfaces have been pretty bare for 5+ years. Vertical surfaces are solid with some of the original finish that was easy to remove with tedious pressure washing.

I am undecided between DSH recommendations seems and also from several readings on your site about the differences between cleaners, brighteners and stabilizing the ph level after cleaning – all prep before finishing.

I am looking to refinish with a transparent stain in cedar tone and am partial to a penetrating stain as I feel any film finish will inevitably breakdown/flake as do most exterior paint finishes.

Have I missed something?

Thanks, ...André
cadesmarais , June 08, 2015
If it is clean then go ahead and stain.
TheSealerStore , June 05, 2015
I cleaned and brightened my deck with restore a deck. The weather has been bad and 2 weeks have gone by. Is it ok to still stain my deck or do I have to clean and brighten the deck again.
Rick T , June 04, 2015
Maybe, I guess it would not hurt t try.
TheSealerStore , May 27, 2015
Bummer.... that wood is way too expensive to discard. Would running it through a planer be of any help? Or would it just eat up my blades?
Maria Rentz , May 27, 2015
re: Designer
Only thing you can do is replace the old wood with new wood.
TheSealerStore , May 27, 2015
re: sanding after stripping and brightening
Use 60 grit paper. You can use an orbital or buffing machine.
TheSealerStore , May 27, 2015
I have a batu deck that was installed last autumn and left unfinished/untreated to weather over the (not-as-harch-as-usual) Alaska, winter. This year, we installed another batu deck on a lower area of the house but used a wipe-on Brazilian redwood oil (Penofin) finish. The new deck looks spectacular and we would like to do the same to the older deck. When we applied the Penofin to a couple of boards on the older deck, they turned out much darker, deeper red than the new boards on the lower deck. I much prefer the brighter tone of the new deck to the deep, reddish tone I'm getting on the older wood. Is there anything you can recommend that would undo the aging process and restore the older batu boards to their original tone? Thank you! Maria
Maria Rentz , May 27, 2015
sanding after stripping and brightening
We stripped and brightened our redwood deck using the stuff you recommended and a stiff brush. Most of the old finish came off -theres still quite a few dark spots and it left the redwood with significant grain raise and a super rough finish. I guess we should sand it now? Should we use an orbital sander, and if so what size sand paper is best?
Eden , May 27, 2015
Prep both decks with the Restore A Deck Kits that we sell. Stain with Armstrong Clark Deck Stain. Both can be found in our main menu above.
TheSealerStore , May 18, 2015
Need help with what I need to do to restore two decks
I have a deck and stairs that were built in 2007 and have a coat of Thompson's Water Seal on them. I would like to know what I need to do to restore and protect them. Also I have another deck that is over 12 years old and I don't know what was put on it and could use a lot of work. Wood is solid and does not have any rot on either deck. Both decks were built with pressure treated lumber.
rmacbeth , May 18, 2015
re: 2 nd coat of Armstrong Clark
Yes you can do that. Clean and reapply a light coat.
TheSealerStore , May 11, 2015
2 nd coat of Armstrong Clark
I used Armstrong Clark Semi Transparrent stain on my pressure treated deck last year This was the initial application for this deck. Did all the prep work and the product looks great. I was thinking about putting on another cost this year as a preventative measure. I am not exactly sure what prep work would be required. Can I just use a cleaner and apply another coating?
Dean , May 10, 2015
re: deck cleaner
You have to remove the Behr form the deck and that can be hard. Try the HD80 Stripper and pressure washing. You may need to strip a few times to get it all off. Make sure to brighten the wood when done.
TheSealerStore , May 08, 2015
deck cleaner
Hello just recently build a deck out of cedar.
It is 2 yrs old. for the first 2 years I used a Behr stain product to stain the deck. With our harsh winter in Canada the deck has shown some peeling.
I will need to stain again this year.

Do you recommend I strip the deck or cleaning it with a good cleaner.
peter , May 08, 2015
A good quality pump sprayer normally works but depends on the stain brand and type.
TheSealerStore , May 03, 2015
What kind of sprayer do you recommend to stain a deck. Will a simple hand pump sprayer work?
Kate Morgan , May 02, 2015
Brightener would not doing anything or remove dirt. You would need to clean to remove the dirt. Try soapy water first and lightly scrub with a soft bristle brush.
TheSealerStore , May 02, 2015
I cleaned, brightened and stained my new deck with restore a deck and Armstrong Clark last June. It still looks pretty good but dirty. I would like to apply a maintenance coat? Could I use just a brightener before staining or would I have to use a cleaner also? Also what cleaning solution can I use to remove surface dirt from the deck. Thanks
Rick T , May 02, 2015
You cannot use wood filler or putty on outside wood. It will not work and it will not stain to blend with the deck stain. You will need to make sure all of the Olympic is removed first. If it is not then you should use a stain stripper and pressure washer to remove. Apply brightener when done. If you ha already removed it then just brighten the deck. Look at TWP 1515 Honeytone.
TheSealerStore , April 30, 2015
TWP 1500 or Armstrong Clark
Based on most of your responses below, I noticed that you tend to recommended TWP 1500 and Armstrong Clark. I would like to know which one I should use on my deck. I live in Virginia. I have a town house deck that was done with pressure treated wood. The house is about 10 years old and I assume the deck is as well. When I first moved in the deck needed to be cleaned and sealed as it did not look great. It cleaned up fine and I used something from Lowes to seal it. I am pretty sure it was Olympic Maximum in honey gold color, which did a pretty descent job of holding up for several years. I cleaned the deck again this weekend again with a deck cleaner from Lowes. I came across your site after looking up suggestions on what to use to seal it. It sounds like I should use a brighter now and then one of the products to seal it? I would like to do the Honey Gold color again since I used it on my fence as well and everything matches. So, do you suggest that I do use the brightener and which one of the sealers, TWP 1500 or Armstrong Clark. There is some chipping in my deck which I plan on trying to fill in with wood putty as a side note. Thanks!
MikeMike , April 30, 2015
No color means no protection from UV graying. Clear will gray naturally. Do you want it to gray in a matter of months?
TheSealerStore , April 30, 2015
One more question...
After the stain stripper & wood brightener, I'd like to treat the deck, but I don't want any "color". What should I use?.....(I have pressure treated wood)...Thx!
Paula W , April 30, 2015
Paula W, if the old stain is till on the wood then use a stain stripper and a wood brightener. If not old stain then use the Deck Cleaner and Wood Brightener. Use the Restore A Deck Products.
TheSealerStore , April 26, 2015
My deck hasn't been cleaned or stained in over 4 years. I do not remember what was used on it last, but it was some kind of semi-transparent stain, I think. I want to clean it, make it look much better & treat it for the elements. I'm confused....what do I do...which steps & which products? Thx!
Paula W , April 26, 2015
It is fine. Just stir it up to make sure the pigment is even. It would last a few years unopened or longer.
TheSealerStore , April 19, 2015
Timber Oil shelf life
I have 15 gallons of Timber Oil Warm Honey Gold from last year I wasn't able to apply due to medical reasons, it's been stored in the original sealed containers in the garage (no freezing). Is it still good? What is the shelf life of Timber Oil?
Thanks for a Great web site!

ammoman , April 19, 2015
re: Sand or strip bullet wood (ipe)?
You cannot strip that. You will have to sand it all off. After the sanding you should prep with a deck cleaner and pressure washing.
TheSealerStore , April 13, 2015
Sand or strip bullet wood (ipe)?
i have an approx 1000sf deck of which I've ruined by trying paint it with Cabot's Solid color stain at least 3 to 4 times over the last 11 years with oil base sealer and water-base coating. I have 10+ friends coming this weekend from my church to help sand or strip it. Should i continue to use sanders and friends to keep sanding until down to bare wood or use a stripper? or a combo of both? The old stuff flaking is constant, but the paint near the house is practically indestructible. (see Pictures) The ends of the boards and the risers of the stairs are also painted with the old Cabot's an it is on there very good.

It has been recommended to me by a professional to get off as much as possible and then every year coat with a quality semi-transparent stain made for ipe.

Also, do I need to use a cleaner and brightener on the wood after sanding?


I live near Portland and would like to purchase from you, so time is of the essence.
Merv , April 13, 2015
re: New deck built it late summer last year. what do I use.
Prep first with the Restore A Deck Kit and stain with TWP 1500 or Armstrong Clark.
TheSealerStore , April 13, 2015
New deck built it late summer last year. what do I use.

Help, I put up a new deck last year I would like to stain it and need to seal it. the would is just simple pressure treated wood. I live in NE ohio. Can you suggest what I should use?


frank Spano , April 13, 2015
You cannot go over the Thompsons with another brand. You would have to remove it first. Look at the Armstrong Clark in a semi-solid color for a penetrating oil based stain but with the max UV protection of a semi-solid. You can use it on all of your wood as long as the wood is prepped well and free of old coatings.
TheSealerStore , April 09, 2015
deck/hot tub/picnic table stain
Im in Daytona Beach Area east coast Fl. Across the street from beach.3/4 sun upper/bottom large deck.
I used twp 120 it did not last 2 yrs. 1st coat left 1st yr,saw my foot prints on first cote.I stripped of thompsons waterproofer/with color honey gold.which never lasted. deck is 4yrs old.pressure treated.
What stain would get the most life,and what prep do I need to do.?

Second is my rails all around is with thompson waterproofing with color honey gold.It ready to restain with same. Or what could go over it to last?

Third Hot tub 12yrs old wood, used flood semi transparant a while ago(it was not in full sun like now) I cleaned it with tsp/bleach,ready to stain. Solid or semi stain,darker the better.For lasting? and what brand stain

Fourth is a pt new wood 2 picnic tables not yet ready to stain. What stain/solid or semi.what color to last and traffic please

Thanks Den M
dennis m , April 08, 2015
You cannot apply anything on top of the Cabot to extend the life. You could stain with the Armstrong Clark in one of the semi-solid colors for better life.
TheSealerStore , March 31, 2015
very large deck stained with cabot timber oil color of jarrah.. looking for a longer lasting finish.. could we restain with cabot then apply something else for a more durable finish.. deck is too large and very high off the ground to be staining every year.
Lori Stansbury , March 31, 2015
deck stained with cabot timber ooil in color of jarrah.. loved the color but not the wear... deck stained 2 yrs ago.. is there a product that lastest longer? deck is very large
Lori Stansbury , March 31, 2015
Prep first with the Restore A Deck Kits and stain with the Armstrong Clark woo deck stain.
TheSealerStore , March 07, 2015
I live in SW Florida. I have a 1,000 sq ft 2nd story wrap around deck. It is old pressure treated lumber that is cracking and warping. I have to replace some boards that are rotting. I need to get this deck treated before the rainy season starts. I want to use a product I dont have to strip for re-treatment and that is durable in this climate. What do you suggest?
Shannon , March 07, 2015
re: redwood deck
Make sure to prep by removing the old coating first. The can be done with the Restore A Deck Products. When the wood is prepped properly then I would suggest either TWP 1515 Honeytone or the Armstrong Clark in one of their light tints.
TheSealerStore , January 26, 2015
redwood deck
question. we have a new redwood deck, a little over 1 year old. We did have it professionally treated after it was completed. A couple of boards needed to be replaced b/c they had some cracks. This was in Dec. This time my husband will apply the finish on the new boards. We live in the San Francisco bay area, by the water, we get get sun and the elements. What clear stain, or the clearest stain would you recommend? If there is a store in our area zip code 94401 that would be helpful,otherwise we can purchase it online. He is ready to apply as soon as possible now. thank you so much!

It has already been washed and is dried right now.
Andrea , January 25, 2015
You can do either. If you were happy with the Timber Oil then you might want to stay with it. TWP may give a little better UV protection but it will still need to be redone every couple of years.
TheSealerStore , October 01, 2014
Timber Oil replacement
At the recommendation of many, we chose Woodrich Timber Oil as the stain for our new western cedar deck two years ago. As advertised, it was easy to apply and worked great for a new cedar deck. The deck is clearly in need of a new application and I was wondering how difficult it would be two switch to a more durable stain like TWP 1500 (or similar), or are we better staying with the Timber Oil? I'm unwilling to have to strip the deck at this point just to switch stains...just a good cleaning and staining.
Scott S. , September 30, 2014
Never heard of this before but it is possible that the soles of his shoes reacted with the brightener which is a mild citric acid.
TheSealerStore , September 16, 2014
tried the rag - went with the cleaner/brightener
Wow - you guys are awesome! My husband doesn't call back as fast as you guys respond to help questions! Especially impressive because you are one time zone earlier than I am.

I tried the wet rag, with no luck. It really looks like these shoe prints are a result of stain being removed from the wood. I decided to end the rag and get out the cleaner/brightener, and a deck brush, and I applied that this morning. It's still wet, but I guess I'll find out later if those weird shoe marks are gone. Have you heard of this before? It's very strange. We looked at the shoes last night, they were very clean. The cleaner/brightener must have reacted with the shoe rubber...?

I've learned my lesson...no staining decking surfaces first.

Karen , September 15, 2014
re: Second coat - questions
Not without removing the shoe prints first. Try wiping them off with a wet rag.
TheSealerStore , September 15, 2014
Second coat - questions
I've been looking at that decking for a few hours now. It is completely dry now - and I can see actual SHOE imprints here and there along with the wear and tear, courtesy of my husband's big feet. I can understand dragging marks from a ladder, but shoe tread marks? He was wearing running shoes with black tread. And these are nice footprints, no dragging.

Still recommend the second coat? This is so odd.
Karen , September 14, 2014
Yes you can do a very light coat now or you could just wait until Spring.
TheSealerStore , September 14, 2014
Decking problem continued
THe lighter marks on my decking look like the stain has been worn off - if this is the case, is it possible to just put another very light coat of the twp 1500 over the decking again? I can't believe this.

Also - when I did the wet on wet, the second coat that I applied was very light, and I wonder now if i messed that up based on what happened today.

Karen , September 14, 2014
Problem with the stained surface now
Sigh - I washed my pergola and balusters, and we used a pressure washer (an electric one), and now the decking looks worn. There are areas where the stain seems to be worn off. I thought at first perhaps it was just dirt, but I've been wiping it and that stuff seems to be permanent.

I wet down the decking with water before I started with the Restore a Deck products - but could this be the result of the cleaner maybe drying on the decking? I have no idea what is wrong. I used a heck of a lot of water. The most psi out of that pressure washer is 1800 psi, and the fan end of the wand was about 2 feet from every surface - never closer since I was paranoid.

Last week I did 2 coats, wet on wet, and it's been raining, the water has puddled on the decking. Do i need to do another coat of twp on the decking now? Can I do it now - or is this a job for next summer? And if it is a job for next summer, does this mean wet on wet again?

Very frustrated. Next time I will never do the decking first.
Karen , September 14, 2014
Pressure washing under 1200 psi will be fine and make sure to do long sweeping passes with the wand.
TheSealerStore , September 11, 2014
Great - how long should I wait?

Also - I was thinking that instead of scrubbing all those balusters (and losing my mind), I'd buy a pressure washer and use the cleaner-brightener on the verticals. I guess the pressure washer won't hurt things, so long as I keep it under 1200 psi? Last year for the very first staining, I actually hand scrubbed every single surface of the deck, including all the balusters.
Karen , September 10, 2014
Karen, only one coat on the verticals. The cleaner and brightener should not harm the stained areas. when you stain the verticals, make sure to tarp/cover the floor.

TheSealerStore , September 10, 2014
cleaning continued
I previously cleaned my pergola a few months ago with the restore a deck product but it has literally rained all summer and I never did do the staining or clean the verticals. I only did the horizontals because they really needed it. Last year we did 1 coat only of the twp. I'm aware I should have started at the top and worked down but life doesn't always go as planned. The weather is calling for a dry week next week and I wonder if I can do the rest.
Also I wonder if the verticals,
Especially the balusters need 2 coats via wet on wet.
Karen , September 09, 2014
use of cleaner
I am maintaining my deck-pergola in 2 stages. I cleaned and brightened the handrail and flooring and stained them yesterday. I still have a pergola and the balusters to clean-brighten and stain. The stain is twp 1500 and I did wet on wet application. I used restore a deck and I have a 2 year old pt pine deck. Can I use the restore a deck on the verticals and pergola in a few days or will this mess up the newly stained parts? How long should I wait?
Karen , September 09, 2014
You might need to strip it off and brighten for the prep next year.
TheSealerStore , September 04, 2014
can I wait until next spring, clean and brighten and then put another coat on?
massachusetts , September 03, 2014
re: How long can you wait
Wait? TWP is applied wet on wet. If you apply more now, it may not dry properly. You may need to strip off and start over.
TheSealerStore , September 03, 2014
How long can you wait
Stained a deck using TWP 1500 on Saturday. Made a mistake not going the full length of each board and now have overlap marks. How long can I wait before touching up with remaining product before I have to clean and brighten?
massachusetts , September 02, 2014
Lynda S, we are an online dealer and we ship to Canada. Look at the Armstrong Clark.
TheSealerStore , August 26, 2014
refinishing cedar garage door
I have just spent a lot of time cleaning and prepping my cedar garage door for restaining. I would like to use a
transparent or semi transparent oil based stain. I am looking for an oil based stain. Can you recommend a brand that I can purchase here in Canada, Ontario specifically. thanks.
Lynda S. , August 25, 2014
re: Painted spindles and stained hand rails
The RAD stripper will not remove the painted spindles. No stripper will.
TheSealerStore , August 25, 2014
Painted spindles and stained hand rails
Can I use restore a deck stripper on my painted spindles? The hand rails are stained, along with the decking and steps, but the spindles are painted white, and I want to restain and repaint the entire porch.
Kirby , August 25, 2014
JJ, 40 should be fine as long as it does not feel to rough to the surface. Use the 1500 or 100 Series.
TheSealerStore , August 15, 2014
Dana, use the TWP 100 Series or the Defy Extreme for the Pacific NW.
TheSealerStore , August 15, 2014
re: Do you know anything about the performance of the product SEAL-IT ?
It is a gimmick. May help some with decay but does nothing for UV protection or surface protection.
TheSealerStore , August 15, 2014
Do you know anything about the performance of the product SEAL-IT ?
Rebecca , August 14, 2014
I am planning on doing a first staining a new cedar deck. The deck has been bare for about 10 months. The wood is in good shape with only a few small patches of green mold. The mold washed off easily with Biowash SimpleWash. What stain would you recommend for a new cedar deck in the PNW that gets plenty of rain. I would like to use a semi transparent oil base.
Thanks for your advise.
dana , August 14, 2014

I am removing a failing stain (SW deck scape)from my cedar deck in Seattle. The only way to remove it is by sanding and I am finding I need to use 40 grit. Can you advise whether I need to go over the surface with a finer grit prior to brightening and applying a stain? Or is it fine to proceed after just using the 40 grit.
I plan on restaining with either Twp 1500 or TimberOil. I am hoping that neither one of those will ever need to be sanded off. I plan on only needing to clean and restain every few years.

JJ , August 14, 2014
BH, look at the TWP stains for this. They will last 2-3 years.
TheSealerStore , August 11, 2014
I have a 12 x 14 pressure treated wood deck with bench seat on two sides and spindle railing and stairs. I just finished cleaning it and I'm trying to figure out the best stain/sealer to use and how much I need. Years ago I applied CWV but was not happy with it. It was cleaned off the best we could and then applied Thompson's water seal. I reapplied Thompson's in October 2011 but only to the flat surfaces and I'm overdue with putting something on the entire deck.
I am considering the Timber Oil. Does this sound like a good product for me to use for my deck? Should I use a deck brightener first? Also, there is a comment regarding "annual" maintenance. Does this mean that you need to apply the Timber Oil every year? I would prefer to get a minimum of 3 years out of whatever product I use. I see recommendations in other comments for TWP1500 or TWP100. Perhaps this is my best option since I would prefer to be able to simply clean and then reapply.
Since my deck is clean and ready to go I would appreciate your suggestions.
Thank you for your time.
BH , August 11, 2014
re: Teak furniture?
Use a deck cleaner and pressure washer for prep and to restore wood. Stain with a penetrating oil based stain such as IPE Oil:

TheSealerStore , August 01, 2014
Teak furniture?
A bit off topic, but perhaps you have some thoughts? We have a set of outdoor teak furniture. We bought into the "just let them weather and grey, they need no maintenance" advice. Big mistake. They are now badly weathered--surface rough, stained grey/black with lighter splotches (mold? lichen?). Any hope? Should I try sanding, then refinishing? Any suggestions for teak?
mlingga , July 31, 2014
re: rental house I have in the Chicago area
For the prep use the Restore A Deck Kit and pressure washing:

For the stain try TWP 1500 Series:

You will need:
-RAD 300 Kit for prep
-One 5 gallon Pail of the TWP
TheSealerStore , July 22, 2014
I am writing about a rental house I have in the Chicago area. The wood deck has not had any maintenance for over 6 years, but I am told it is in "pretty good shape." I believe the last application was either a stain or more likely a sealer. Just not sure. I intend on using a power washer in the restoring process, but just don't know what products to use in what order. I would appreciate you giving me, if possible, a step by step method I can use to restore the deck. I need which of your products and in what order and how to use. Of course I am looking for the most durable and attractive deck I can have. Thank you. I will be placing an order with you as soon as I receive your answer. The deck is about 20' x 20' with 8 or 10 steps.

david holleman , July 22, 2014
Kim, not sure on this as we only sell semi-transparent and not paints.
TheSealerStore , July 15, 2014
I am trying to restore an old weathered outdoor sign that is located in the wetlands. The sign is 4ft. by 8ft. in size. It was originally stained but did not have a protective sealer over it. I am not sure what steps to take and which method I should use in refinishing it. I am thinking about using a combination of materials, first by starting with a wood cleaner, then sanding, after that I could use a primer followed by using sign paint for the area that has lettering and using acrylic paints for the illustration area also I would stain the trim and posts and wanted to use a protective sealer that I could reapply regularly so the so the illustrated image would last for a long time . Could you please help me ? Do you have a sealer that would work for that and do you have any suggestions on how I should do this or is it better to use all stains and if so would I be able to get a large variety of colors in smaller amounts ? Thank You !
Kim Schardt , July 15, 2014
Eddie, yes you should clean and brighten for prep. That is rust around the nails and will most likely come back after a rain.
TheSealerStore , July 06, 2014
I have a 30 year old cedar deck that I just sanded after 30 years of failed stains. My question is, do I need both the cleaner and the brightener if it has been sanded? I do see some tannin spots, especially around the nail holes (didn't have screws 30 years ago?). Thanks.
Eddie , July 05, 2014
JL Smith, the extreme clear is penetrating. Prep first with the Restore A Deck Stripper to remove the Superdeck and use the RAD brightener when done.
TheSealerStore , June 26, 2014
Is Defy Extreme Clear Stain considered a penetrating product or a film forming stain? I have a cedar deck that is under snow load for 3 or 4 months a year. I previously used SuperDeck and it held up fairly well, but I am looking for a little more protection. I prefer a clear sealer. The deck does get a lot of sun in the summer. Any recommendations for preparing the deck for Defy Extreme Clear Stain?
J L Smith , June 25, 2014
re: Sealer over solid color deck stain?
No such thing as a sealer that can be applied over a solid color stain.
TheSealerStore , June 23, 2014
re: Recommendation for Restoration of wood deck
Use the Armstrong Clark or the TWP 1500.
TheSealerStore , June 22, 2014
Recommendation for Restoration of wood deck
I want to restore a wood deck that is weathered and neglected for the last few years, I am going to purchase the "Restore a deck" kit but need a recommendation for a (oil based?) finish to apply after. I am not pressed about staining I just want to get a finish on it for protection as I don't want to replace this deck. Upon your recommendation I will place my order as I'm ready to get started asap.
Thank you!
Russell Treacy , June 22, 2014
Sealer over solid color deck stain?
We stained a new deck with a national brands solid color deck stain and it seems as though there is dirt from foot traffic which does not easily wash.

Needless to say the customer is not happy , so I am trying to find a sealer that can be applied over a solid color stain. Can you help?
socalbuilder , June 21, 2014
re: Sanding cedar deck rather than using a cleaner before staining with oil-based stain
No you need a cleaner for the prep.
TheSealerStore , June 19, 2014
Sanding cedar deck rather than using a cleaner before staining with oil-based stain
I am getting up in years and am searching for easiest way to restore my 12x14 cedar deck, last coated with a high quality, oil based, semi-transparent stain. Can I avoid the cleaning process by hosing the deck, than using a power sander (some of the boards are showing grey)? Since I have always used stain, and the decking material is cedar, there is no peeling, just signs of wear. Thank you for your kind service. Wayne Knopf werdem@q.com
Wayne Knopf , June 18, 2014
re: deck paint color too hot to walk on
Sorry but no.
TheSealerStore , June 15, 2014
deck paint color too hot to walk on
Hello i got this deck and porch paint in a teal green which looks great but when the sun is in the deck you cant walk on it with your bare feet because of it being too hot. Is there any thing i could top that with to make it enjoyable for bare feet or am i just stuck?aoyyh
sharon hubbard , June 14, 2014
Rick,Yes you should strip off the Cabot before re staining. Look at the TWP 100 Series stain for the log cabin. It can be cleaned and reapplied as needed. You always have to clean first before reapplying.
TheSealerStore , June 12, 2014
Have cabot sealer on log home and want to reseal. do I need to strip it first because it has just turned grey or darker from time or weathering. It has been about 7-8 years since sealing. It was clear sealer but I think I need to go back with a translucent this time to retard greying as long as possible. what brand is the best & most cost effective. I live in Nasville area & house is shaded most of the day so I have quite a few trees around house. Just want to put best stain on so I don't have to restain so often. Can you restain every 3-4 years with just light pressure washing or do you need to clean & brighten every time.
Rick N Robinson , June 12, 2014
re: Pressure washer damage
No way to fix pressure wash marks except maybe sanding.
TheSealerStore , June 09, 2014
Pressure washer damage
Hi. We recently pressure washed our with a cleaner. It left marks all over it. I think he got too close to the wood with the washer. Is there anyway to fix this?!?! Please help. We just built it last year. Would be heartbroken if it is ruined thanks
Allison , June 08, 2014
re: Colour Choice & Longevity
Corey, it's the wood, not the stain that causes this issue. The AC has shown to give the longest color retention results but hard to say if it will be 12 months. Amber or Mahogany. try stripping instead of sanding. Sanding reduces the stains ability to penetrate.
TheSealerStore , June 08, 2014
Colour Choice & Longevity
I am up in Canada, I My company did a large 1200 ft2 Kayu Batu deck. The Deck is on a lake house where the weather is extremely hot in the summer and extremely cold in the winter. We prestained all the material with Mesmers Natural wood stain and applied a second surface coat after completion. It didn't last 6 months. We then went out and sanded down the entire deck and tried a Para product. Again it only lasted six months. My questions is, before I go out and sand down a 1200 ft2 deck again, is the Armstrong Clark product going to last at least12 months for me and which tint will bring back the natural colour the best?
Corey Molengraaf , June 07, 2014
Frank, Defy Wood Cleaner and the Defy extreme would be best for this.
TheSealerStore , May 30, 2014
We need to clean/stain an older dock. We are looking for products to use which would be environmentally safe. Would the TWP or Defy products be good for us to use?
Frank Fletcher , May 30, 2014
re: boat
probably not
TheSealerStore , May 27, 2014
I have an old wooden boat and the wood inside is pretty cracked and splintered. I was wondering if a wood resurfacer would be appropriate to use for something like this.
Zach , May 26, 2014
Alice, look at the TWP 115 Honeytone or the Armstrong Clark in the Amber for this if you want lighter tints. Darker colors will take longer to fade though/
TheSealerStore , May 21, 2014
Last Oct. we had a large PTP pier built quite high on a North Carolina freshwater lake. It will be used a little, untreated, in June and July. Plan to stain in Aug. Will we (in our 70's), a 50 yr old son, 16 yr old grandson be able to reasonably treat it? Tho we prefer a lighter color because of the heated surface, we care more about not having to re-treat than the color. True that the darker, the better? What brand of the stain would you recommend? Thank you.
Alice Morgan , May 21, 2014
Use the Armstrong Clark or the TWP for this old deck in MI.
TheSealerStore , April 28, 2014
We have a 19 year-old pressure-treated pine deck that is 12 X 20. We have never put anything on it and just pressure washed as needed. We are thinking of staining after our recent pressure washing. We live in Michigan and the deck receives morning and early afternoon sun - longer on one end. We've been reading about TWP or DEFY. What would be the best choice for our older deck?
LJ Werner , April 28, 2014
Sarcy, try the Defy Extreme for this. Strip with the Restore A Deck.
TheSealerStore , April 26, 2014
What would you recommend to restain a wooden playset? Is Defy extreme or TWP 1500 a good choice? Also which stripper and brightener would you recommend?
Sarcy , April 22, 2014
re: Deck rough after cleaning/brightening?
I would be careful of spot sanding as you may smooth the wood in those areas. This will result in the deck stain applying lighter in those areas compared to the rest of the deck. Best to sand all the wood if needed. Use no more than 60 grit paper.
TheSealerStore , April 11, 2014
Deck rough after cleaning/brightening?
We have a pressure treated pine deck that has weathered for 10 months or so. Yesterday we cleaned and scrubbed, then brightened. Today the wood looks much lighter, but is also roughed up a bit in some areas. Should we sand these areas down before staining?
jmbowles78 , April 10, 2014
re: Penofin not getting the job done
I would strip it off and switch to Armstrong Clark or TWP 1500 Series. They are not prone to darkening in color.
TheSealerStore , April 07, 2014
Penofin not getting the job done
I have a 20x16 deck that I have tried to use Cedar Penofin twice without success. The first time I only used one coat and the wood turned black after a year. The second time I stripped the wood down and bought a 5 gallon bucket from your store and put two coats and had the same results. I have ash trees in my back yard and notice that even my trampoline cover has black residue as the summer and fall progress. My neighbors don't seem to have the same problems I have with their deck wood turning black. What would you suggest so I don't have to keep strip/staining every one-two years?
Kbic , April 06, 2014
re: Defy wood stain OK for sale in Canada
Defy is legal for Canada. We can ship it there or you can visit our store in Bloomfield Hills, MI.
TheSealerStore , April 02, 2014
Defy wood stain OK for sale in Canada
Do you know if Defy Extreme clear stain is approved to be used in Canada as I am looking to see if I can buy in the USA and bring it accross the border to Sarnia Canada
Brian Marsh , April 02, 2014
Brazilian Rosewood Restoration?
My client says that he has bought a home with a pool deck made from Brazilian Rosewood??? No I know that Brazilian Rosewood has been band from the US for over a decade, but this is what he says it is. Is there a product if it is Brazilian Rosewood that I could use to rejuvenate his deck. Please let me know asap....
Cal , March 29, 2014
Best to not wash with just water as too much pressure will damage the wood. Use the Restore A Deck Kit 1000 for the prep while pressure washing. This will make the job much easier and it will turn out better. As for the stain, you must have a tint for UV protection from graying. Clear will not work. Tints will enhance or darken the Tigerwood color. Might want to look at the Armstrong Clark in the Amber color.
TheSealerStore , February 20, 2014
I will be restoring a 1700 square foot Tiger Wood deck. I would like to bring it back as close to the original color as possible. Reddish but not too dark. I have Thompsons clear on it right now, which makes it look white. I do have access to pressure washers and will pressure wash it first. Please advise process, product, quantity, and ect. I will be doing this around Easter so please reply soon.
Jimmy Marks , February 19, 2014
I stained my deck last spring and fell in a pool of excess stain. I was told by the hardware store to take an old sock and try evening it out again by wiping it. Another person told me to back wipe entire deck. Do you know what he means. I don't. thanks
Mike Danaher , January 25, 2014
re: polymeric sand?
Depends on which sealer but it will not hurt to use the poly. Make sure there is not residual sand dust on the pavers. This can create a "poly haze" with certain brands of poly sand.
TheSealerStore , January 13, 2014
polymeric sand?
Do you suggest the use of polymeric sand or coarse sand for using your wet look sealer on 18"X18" pavers 1.5" deep?
fredj , January 12, 2014
The contractor is back this morning and says he talked to someone last night who said it was wood "pulp". This makes sense (and concurs with what you said), as it looks like wet toilet paper... The question is, how do I remove it? If I let it dry, it appears it can be brushed off with a stiff brush - but this is about 6000 s.f. we are talking about, I was hoping it could be done without hand contact to each and every square inch of the siding and decking.... I guess the only way to see how the color is going to take is to wait for the wood to completely dry, and then test, but its been wet and raining here...
Scott baldassari , September 30, 2013
re: twp over cuprinol?
You are most likely just seeing wood fibers come off. Stain does not look like this. As long as the wood is clean and free of visible stain, you can proceed with the TWP.
TheSealerStore , September 30, 2013
twp over cuprinol?
I have 3 buildings that I believe were sealed with cuprinol (at least 7 or 8 years ago), but have sinced discolored and turned gray and shabby looking. 1 building is rough sawn pine, the other two are t-11 siding. I would like to restain/seal them with a medium color twp or australian timber oil. Bleaching and pressure washing seems to turn the wood an ugly greenish shade of white, and a waxy-fibery-wet cardboard like surface seems to pull out of the wood (I am assuming this is the cuprinol). Pressure washing alone seems to clean better (without causing the odd coloring or fibering) but takes forever with the washer tip about 4" from the surface. Has anyone ever encountered this fiber like material, and what did you do with it? If I stain over the material, will it stay adhered to the wood?
Scott baldassari , September 30, 2013
re: Stripping wood stain
I would repeat and try to get off 95% or more of the old stain.
TheSealerStore , September 17, 2013
Stripping wood stain
I am using DH 80 wood stripper and have found that not all simi-transparent stain is removed, even after brushing. Should I repeat the stripping process in those areas until its removed or just move on and stain over?

Thank you for your response
Jerry Harsh , September 16, 2013
Yo, you need a stain/color if you want UV protection. Clears will turn gray much faster.
TheSealerStore , September 09, 2013
Does staining protect wood better/longer then just using a clear coat of water sealant? Last year my front porch was rebuilt (8ftx34ft) with treated wood. A couple of weeks ago it recieved a power wash in preparation to apply a sealant or stain, I like the natural wood look but want to make sure the wood is protected as it gets 5 hours of direct sunlight during the evening hrs. Also, how often would I need to apply a sealant or restain?
Yo , September 09, 2013
re: Wood Deck - Refinishing
No you cannot add a new coat of stain on top of a old coat without the proper prep. It will prematurely fail.
TheSealerStore , September 04, 2013
Wood Deck - Refinishing
Hi there, I have a screened in wood deck that gets some winter snow and rain in New England. It was most likely stained about 10 years ago and needs a fresh stain/waterproof coat. I'm not really interested in using toxic chemical strippers... but not opposed to giving it a light sanding. Is there a product that you would recommend that would work well over a previous (but worn) stain application?
Howie , September 04, 2013
re: Sand before or after Restore A Deck Stripper and Brightener
Lightly sand only if needed after.
TheSealerStore , August 29, 2013
Sand before or after Restore A Deck Stripper and Brightener
Should I sand before or after applying the Restore A Deck Stripper and Brightener?


Rick D , August 29, 2013
Semi-transparents last longer than the transparents.
TheSealerStore , August 21, 2013
Thanks for the reply. We tried several samples of AC and TWP. We do not like the AC Semi colors. So we are weighing AC cedar or natural transparent, vs. TWP 1500 natural semi-transparent. Would the AC still be better to prevent greying,etc. The fence is in central Ohio. Thanks.
Mike25 , August 21, 2013
re: Rough sawn cedar fence
Armstrong Clark for this. Probably do not need a cleaner or brightener if the wood is rough and has not discolored.
TheSealerStore , August 14, 2013
Rough sawn cedar fence
Just installed 500+ feet of cedar fence about 2 months ago. Looking to prevent it from turning grey and maintain natural color as close as possible. Hoping to keep it to 1 coat due to the size of the fence.
1. What stain should I use, leaning toward twp 1500 or Armstrong Clark, but open to others.
2. Do I need to use a cleaner and brightener on rough saw cedar 2 months old?
Mike25 , August 14, 2013
re: sealer won't dry.
Steve, if the sealer never dries than you need to strip it all off and start over.
TheSealerStore , August 08, 2013
sealer won't dry.
I appiled valspar high gloss sealer to my brick pavers,The sealer is not complely drying.I have waited approx.a week for the drying,But no much luck.Looking for what I need to do to correct problem.

Thank You
steve carr , August 08, 2013
Nene, yes samples are available on our site. Let the wood weather for a few weeks and apply the Restore A Deck Cleaner and Brightener for the prep before staining.
TheSealerStore , August 05, 2013
jstew, remove with the Restore A Deck Stain Stripper than apply the RAD Brightener. Stain with Defy Extreme or TWP 1500.
TheSealerStore , August 05, 2013
deck restoration
I cleaned and brightened an older redwood deck. AFter looking at the result, I decided to sand it down to new wood for a smoother finish. I now am uncertain about how long I need to wait to stain and what prep needs to happen. I am considering TWP or armstrong clark stains. Also, can you tell me if sample sizes are available to determine color. Thanks
Nene , August 05, 2013
Deck Restoration
I have a 12' by 12' deck that is used for supporting an 8' by 8' hot tub. The deck is in Indiana, in full sun and is exposed to the chlorine water spills from the tub.

I would like your recommendation for the best stripper/stain to use on the deck? I last stained the deck with Olympia three years ago.
Jstew , August 05, 2013
re: prepping deck for restain
Stripping will not remove the solid stain but you can use the stripper to remove what is dirty and loose remnants of stain. Apply stripper than pressure wash off.
TheSealerStore , July 29, 2013
prepping deck for restain
my deck is stained with Cabot solid stain in salt marsh it is peeling in spots but most of it is still pretty sound the deck is 30' x 16' I am changing the color to Cabot solid stain bluestone the colors are about the same in color value no lighter or darker I have a few unstained boards that I replaced about a year ago there is some mildew also on some of the deck. what should I do to prep? Do I have to strip?
constance , July 28, 2013
Kimbo, try the Armstrong Clark or the TWP stains.
TheSealerStore , July 28, 2013
what is best stain for old weathered deck Seattle area?
kimbo , July 26, 2013
re: best deck sealing product
Greg, the AC does work well. It does not matter on the color but the semi-transparent color will have better UV protection the the transparent colors.
TheSealerStore , July 21, 2013
best deck sealing product
I have stripped and brightened my 20-year-old treated pine deck. I have also sanded it with 60 and will finish with 80-grit. I ordered three samples from you of AC stain. Is it the best choice for a durable finish? I'm inclined towards the driftwood. Does that have more UV protection because of the pigment content?
Greg McClain , July 19, 2013
re: stripped my deck
Darlene, I would apply a brightener and heavy rinse to get all of the sand dust out of the wood pores.
TheSealerStore , July 14, 2013
AnnO, I would use the Armstrong Clark Stain in the Natural Tone.
TheSealerStore , July 14, 2013
stripped my deck
I stripped my 20yr old deck, put deck brightner on washed allthat off . than sanded with 60 and 80 grit paper.weather is not letting me stain for at least a week. should I use deck brightner again before staining?
darlene erickson , July 13, 2013
I'm making a small cedar table to use as a prep table when grilling, so it will be exposed to not only weather but hot grilling utensils. I'd like the surface to remain a natural color, and long lasting, easy maintenance (if that's possible in any outdoor application). Is the penofin marine oil the best thing to use for this application? Or is there another product that would be better? Thank you!
AnnO , July 12, 2013
re: old deck
Tammy, I would strip and brighten with the Restore A Deck Products. Stain with TWP 1500 or Armstrong Clark.
TheSealerStore , July 07, 2013
Old deck
We just bought a 20 year old house in southern Iowa. We have approx. 700 sq. ft. deck. Nearly the entire deck is high off the ground and it has two sets of steps, one long and one short. It's been stained a cedar color and looks like it was well cared for for some time and neglected the last few years. We are planning to replace some boards and tighten screws and then strip the deck and brighten the deck since we don't know what product has been used to stain it last.

What is the best product to strip and brighten the deck and what would you recommend as the best stain? Also will we need to strip and stain the top and bottom of the deck?
Tammy , July 06, 2013
re: Deck Restoration help
We do not sell Wood Tux anymore. Sorry.
TheSealerStore , July 06, 2013
Deck Restoration help
We have 2000sq ft of deck including surface area for railing. I has very dry wood on the sunny side of the house and old stain or sealer on it. Our paln was to utilize HD-80 to strip then the brightner to neutralize. We are interested in the wood tux stain. I think that we would use 10 gallons because we have to spray some areas? Is there anything we have to put over the stain afterwards or have to use more on the dry wood? We thought that we could dampen the dry wood to use less since it was wood tux? Is this the right idea? It says can be applied damp?
Pat , July 04, 2013
I would never use that product. It peels.
TheSealerStore , June 26, 2013
Is Restore 4-gal. Timberline Deck and Concrete Resurfacer a good product to use on a 10 year old wood deck in the mountains of Colorado? we are at about 8000 feet with lots of snow and cold. Summers are sunny and hot.
Stew , June 26, 2013
The AC Mahogany performs the best for IPE as it contains a higher amount of reflective tint. It does not hide or mask the grain. There is only one mahogany formula for the AC.
TheSealerStore , June 25, 2013
I get that the cleaner doesn't strip, but that is what was previously recommended from this website. So, I will now order the RAD Stripper and redo that. What about the Armstrong Clark, your response to the previous post did not mention there was a special formula for IPE - is that what you recommend? Just want to be sure this time. Also Mahogany Color was recommended, is that just because more pigment would have more UV resistance - or is it because it will do a better job of hiding any remaining color irregularities? I don't want to hide too much of the grain if there isn't a compelling reason to do so.
kaughenbaugh , June 24, 2013
re: Stripping Australian Timber Oil
The RAD Cleaner does not strip. You would have want the RAD Stripper for removal of the ATO. I would strip again then brighten the wood. Lightly sand if needed when done.
TheSealerStore , June 24, 2013
Stripping Australian Timber Oil
In a previous post, you suggested I get a RAD Cleaner & Brightener kit to prep a 3 year old IPE deck previously finished with Cabot's ATO, and then use Armstrong Clark to finish. The cleaner did next to nothing, so rather than wait another week for shipping, I picked up a gallon of CW Flood stripper (Sodium hydroxide base like most of the ones you sell) and stripped with that. It removed a lot - I had a cadbury dark chocolate scum that I power-washed off and followed with the RAD Cleaner. Still looks like some waxy scum build up even after scrubbing cleaner in with a stiff bristle brush and 3M cleaning pads which keep filling with a scum like waxy eraser dust goo. Am I now faced with having to sand, or should I attempt to re-strip again? I have not used the brightener yet, debating on not wasting that until after I re-strip if necessary...
kaughenbaugh , June 24, 2013
re: removing newly stained semi transparent stain
What brand?
TheSealerStore , June 21, 2013
removing newly stained semi transparent stain
what is best way to removed less then 48hrs old semi transparent deck stain
justin , June 20, 2013
re: IPE - anything better than Cabots ATO?
Ken, IPE requires annual maintenance. Nothing will last two years on it. We get the best results with the Armstrong Clark in the Mahogany color. It can be cleaned and reapplied once a year.
TheSealerStore , June 19, 2013
IPE - anything better than Cabots ATO?
I have a 3 yr. old IPE deck (100 sft.) plus IPE stair treads descending to a flagstone patio. Located in Northern VA/DC and western exposure, little AM but extensive PM UV exposure. I have cleaned & treated with Cabot's Australian Timber Oil (ATO) first two years, did not re-treat last year. ATO gets deep muddy brown with some greying - can't really see grain of IPE anymore. Treads naturally wear more in middle, with finish holding better on outer edges as might be expected. Is there another product for IPE that would not require cleaning & reapplication every year that you could recommend> Penofin, TWP 100, Armstrong Clark, Sikkens, all sound interesting, but will any perform a little better than ATO - without fully sanding? Hopefully, I can clean & brighten, lightly/spot sand and re-coat and get 2 years without having to redo. Advice appreciated !!! -Ken
Ken Aughenbaugh , June 18, 2013
Nothing we sell can be applied on top of a solid oil based product.
TheSealerStore , May 30, 2013
I have exterior wood frame for garage door that was stained with a solid oil based product, now no longer sold.

I am not sure what will adhere best without removing base coat.


Trevor De Silva , May 30, 2013
I would look at the Restore A Deck Products for the prep.
TheSealerStore , May 28, 2013
Thanks for the response. I will just have to experiment with different stains. On to the next question. There seems to a lot of products for cleaning, sealing and staining decks. Can you tell me what are good products to use for both my older ipe, (I've already pressure washed it and I will be sanding it this week), and will need to stain and seal it, as well as, stain and seal my new redwood deck. I really like the wet look finish but I'm concerned about the slip factor.
SRJ , May 27, 2013
srj, it is not possible to match redwood to IPE. It will be way off in color. IPE when stained is a rich red brown color. There is no stain color that would make you redwood look like this. The only color that may be close is the Dark Oak in TWP but that is more of a brown.
TheSealerStore , May 26, 2013
I have a question regarding the correct stain products to use for my deck. I just rebuilt my existing deck which was all ipe. I wasn't able to reuse all of the ipe and had to finish with redwood. I would like to restore the ipe to its nature finish and get a stain for the redwood to match, or at least be in the same color family as the ipe. Can you recommend a good transparent stain since I like to see the wood grain and a sealer that would work for both types of wood. Also, my contractor was telling me there are products on the market that have a grain texture that makes decks a little less slippery. Thanks.
SRJ , May 25, 2013
re: 5 year old deck - Defy Extreme or Epoxy??
The Extreme is an improved version of the Epoxy with added nano particles of zinc oxide for better UV protection and mold resistance. Us the Defy Extreme and prepping products.
TheSealerStore , May 20, 2013
5 year old deck - Defy Extreme or Epoxy??
What's the difference between Defy Extreme and Defy Epoxy? Should I go with extreme or Epoxy for my 5 year old untreated deck?

Also I used a cleaner and brightner by Flood that has Oxalic Acid in it - will this suffice for the brightner or do I need to use the Defy?

Thank you for all your advice and help so far!
Lori Lu , May 20, 2013
Defy Extreme is an excellent stain and the best penetrating water based stain on the market.
TheSealerStore , May 19, 2013
5 year old deck continued...
What do you think about the defy extreme for my untreated 5 year old deck? I'm kinda leaning towards acrylic. I actually wanted a solid until I learned from your website you have to sand down a solid to overcoat it- after 9 hours of sanding - I'm not doing that again! I have a 20 x 20 with two railings- live in Ohio .
Lori Lu , May 19, 2013
re: 5 year old deck- never stained or treated
Lori, best to get a stain that soaks deep into the wood so it can be reapplied without the need for stripping. All of the oil based stains that we sell will do this. Look at the Armstrong Clark or TWP.
TheSealerStore , May 18, 2013
5 year old deck- never stained or treated
I have a 5 year old pressure treated pine deck. It s cracking, splitting and shrinking. It's been pressure washed , sanded, and i'm going to use cleaner and brightner. What is the best type of stain (oil or acrylic) to use for a deck that has never been stained? Also I want something that will last and can be touched up - can you put semi- transparent over semi- transparent without stripping? Does it matter if its oil or acrylic? Is staining the same as weatherproofing? Please Help!
Lori Lu , May 17, 2013
re: help
Not sure what you mean by "gel". If it looks like you were to close and the wood looks "fuzzy", then best to lightly sand with 60 grit paper.
TheSealerStore , May 17, 2013
Just finished using Restore a Deck cleaner on my 32x18 1 yr old PT deck I have 14 stairs and a 4x4 landing. I have a little less than a cup of the container that makes 5 gal left over. Used a 1200 psi washer with the green fan tip and set the wheel so that the tip was 3-4 in away from the deck. I have gone over the deck for an hour with a garden hose but there looks to be gel on it. Was the tip too close to the wood?
Natick76 , May 16, 2013
re: 15 year old redwood deck
Restore A Deck Stripper does not come in a kit. Either stain would work for you. Maybe TWP 1511 Cal Red or Armstrong Clark Sierra Redwood.
TheSealerStore , May 12, 2013
I have a 15 year old redwood deck in New Jersey. It has been stained with semitransparent stains every 2 years with different products (Cabot, Cabot Australian timber oil, wolman and some other products). It has now become very dark. I was planning on using Restore-A-Deck stripper and Brightner. Are both of these available in a kit or need to be bought separately (my deck is approx. 750 sq feet). Then I am looking for a stain which will bring out the natural color of redwood (wet redwood look). Which product you recommend (I was considering TWP 1500 or AC). Also which semi transparent color would you recommend for the natural look of redwood.

Thanks for your help.
PL , May 11, 2013
re: Mahogany Deck
Strip with HD80 and brighten with Citralic when done. Stain 48 hours later.

I would not suggest the Cabot. Look at Defy Extreme or TWP 1500.

TheSealerStore , May 10, 2013
Mahogany Deck
What started out as a beautiful deck has weathered unevenly. We use the deck and stairs to come and go from the house all day long. Sooo, the path from the back door and down the stairs has worn away most of the stain, while the far end of the deck that sees no traffic still has a nice dark finish. The contrator originally used an 'oil' on the deck, and subsequently we have used a cabot semi transparent stain to try and 'cover' the high traffic areas.

I am thinking of stripping the entire deck using Powersolve or HD 80 - which one is best?

Then staining with Cabot Australian Timber Oil Semi Transparent Mahogany Flame.

What do I need to do between the stripping and then staining? Is there another step? How long should I wait after stripping until I stain?

I live on the Long Island Sound in Westchester NY (so there is salt air exposure) and the deck sees about 4 hours of sun each day.

Thanks for the help.
John L , May 10, 2013
re: I live in New Mexico
Linda, use the Armstrong Clark in a semi-trans or semi-solid color.
TheSealerStore , May 07, 2013
I live in New Mexico. I have 900 sq ft redwood deck that faces east and is bathed in sun until around 4PM. Temps frequently exceed 100 degrees. The deck is 19 years old and has been stained in the past but still grays and cracks. What is the BEST product I can now use to nourish the wood, bring back the color, and protect from intense sunlight?
Linda Ilene Slone , May 07, 2013
re: new cedar deck
New cedar needs to weather for 4+ months then be cleaned and brightened prior to applying TWP 100 Series.
TheSealerStore , May 06, 2013
new cedar deck
Do I need to use Deck Cleaners for new cedar deck before stain? We are planing to buy TWR 100 wood stain.

natalie , May 06, 2013
re: Changing from Messmers to Armstrong
Best to strip the deck with the RAD Stripper then brighten with the RAD brightener for the prep unless all of the Messmers is already gone. Is so then swap out the RAD Stripper for the RAD Cleaner.
TheSealerStore , May 05, 2013
Changing from Messmers to Armstrong
I have a Tigerwood deck with Ipe borders and railing (metal balusters). In the past I have used Messmers but will be changing to Armstrong/Clark for Hardwood this year. What must I do to prepare the deck before applying the Armstrong?
blfink , May 05, 2013
re: sand,clean & stain OR clean and stain
Joel, I would just clean, brighten then stain this wood.
TheSealerStore , April 25, 2013
sand,clean & stain OR clean and stain
My front porch floorboards are tongue and grovesmilies/angry.gif (I didn't do it) Most of the floor is in good physical condition. I have one board on the far end where no one walks that is warped slightly. But at the entrance (only place it sees sunlight) the ends have some chipped spots and the wood beginning to show signs of breaking down, though there are no splinter hazards as of yet.
Replacing these boards would be a very difficult process. The nails are recessed (hidden) within the grooves and getting a proper replacement fit may prove nearly impossible or least mean deconstructing part of the deck altogether. Putting down a whole new floor is expensive an option right now. (210sq' of decking)
If I sand this area then its my understanding that I would need to sand the entire deck, correct? If I don't have splinters now, should I even consider sanding?
Joel , April 25, 2013
re: Best stain and sealer in extreme heat
I am sorry but I have no idea what is sold in Asia. In general nothing lasts more a year or two on a extremely dense hardwood.
TheSealerStore , April 23, 2013
Best stain and sealer in extreme heat
What is the longest lasting stain and sealer for outdoor application in Asia exposed to extreme heat and rain? The local products last only 2 years or less. It will be applied to hard wood, denser than mahogany. Thanks.
Hector Ko , April 23, 2013
re: Order of process
Sand off what you can then rinse the deck well to remove any sand dust. Since you will probably not get all the paint off you will need to reapply another solid color stain so it will cover everything and look even.
TheSealerStore , April 20, 2013
Order of process
Okay, these may be dumb questions, but here goes: We have a deck that badly needs sanding and staining. Right now it's been painted a reddish color, but it's peeling, faded, splintery etc. We are ready to sand and stain, but need to get rid of all the red first. Do you think a good sanding will do it? Next, we don't really know the type of wood, it's not cedar though I would guess or it wouldn't have been painted a color. The wood might not look nice enough for a simple stain. What type of paint would you recommend if that's the case? Finally, I hadn't thought about power-washing, cleaner or brightener prior to reading your tips. Does it sound like we need all of these steps? I'd prefer not to power wash and just get to sanding, but then is the order to use cleaner, then brightener, then stain/paint? Would I even do those steps if I needed to paint rather than stain? Thank you so much!!!
Carolyn , April 19, 2013
re: wait before replanting?
Larry, I would clean and remove the dead grass the go ahead and replant.
TheSealerStore , April 14, 2013
If I spill deck stain on grass, etc, I understand it will kill the grass. Is there any data on how long I will have to wait before replanting?
Larry Starbuck , April 14, 2013
re: I live in Northeastern Wisconsin
Jim, prep the wood with the Restore A Deck Kits. Then for the stain, I would look at the Armstrong Clark or the TWP 1500.

TheSealerStore , March 20, 2013
I live in Northeastern Wisconsin. My deck (treated pine) is 10 years old and treated once with a cheap clear oil sealer two years ago. The deck is gray and probably has some mold. I would like to use a semi-transparent stain, probably oil based. The deck surrounds an above ground pool. I have would like to know what prep product should I use and stain should I purchase? I am done looking at cheap stains. Your company was recommended to me. I am impressed with your web site. I just subscribed to your product tips, info and coupon area. Jim
Jim Mostek , March 19, 2013
re: cedar siding boat house
I would go with the 1500 Series for this boat house. Rustic is a reddish brown and cedartone is a brownish cedar color.
TheSealerStore , January 25, 2013
cedar siding boat house
ordering samples but would I want the twp 100,500 or 1500 product and do you think rustic, and cedartone the least yellow?
gigi , January 25, 2013
cedar siding boat house
located in Alabama and it is on rough side and yes it will get Full sun!
gigi , January 25, 2013
re: cedar siding boathouse
There is not a "best" stain for all scenarios. Where are you located and is this cedar the smooth or rough side?

You must have a tint for UV protection. The most natural colors typically do have a yellow or golden color. You can get samples of stains here:

Wood Stain Samples
TheSealerStore , January 24, 2013
cedar siding boathouse
We have brand new cedar siding boathouse on lake. We want to seal to keep its new red color and not have it turn grey. But we dont want expense of having to reseal every 2 years what is the best product that will last the longest?I have heard terrible reviews of thompson water seal and also super deck. the boat house is upper level so not touching the water. Also please recommend that color that is closest to natural cedar I do not want a yellow tint.
gigi , January 23, 2013
re: Messmer’s UV Plus – Deck Stain, Wood Stain
You would want the Messmers UV Plus for Hardwoods, not the regular Messmers stain.
TheSealerStore , December 18, 2012
re: feedback after project
Thanks you very much for this great feedback!
TheSealerStore , December 18, 2012
Messmer’s UV Plus – Deck Stain, Wood Stain

I have furniture built with Ipe, an exquisite tropical wood from Brazil. I am looking to purchase Messmer’s UV Plus – Deck Stain, Wood Stain that you carry. I do not know the 'color' to select. The Messmer brand comes in 12 different choices.

Thank you.
Wally Marks , December 17, 2012
feedback after project
I cannot find my previous posts, but thought I'd post feedback quickly.

2 year old 1000 sf cedar deck professionally built, sealed with "superdeck". Superdeck MOLDED after 1 year of wet Oregon weather, began to come off of deck boards. MANY boards cracked and split--replaced bad boards to find that cedar was SAPWOOD with bug damage when harvested, and when sealer failed, water got in and rot started.

Professionals wanted $1600-$3600 to do all of it. At age 50, in hot weather, with hurting back and neck, I decided to go for it. Replaced what boards I could--knowing more will be replaced every 2 years or so--no help from lumber yard or contractor. Countersunk a couple THOUSAND screws. Then, used Restore-A-Deck stripper....WOW, awesome stuff, but was in hot weather so it was quite a job. Then made decision to sand. Used floor sander, w 40 grit then 60 grit; boards were cupped so this helped. Palm sanded rails, used sponge sander to manually sand between metal ballusters (I'm addicted to advil now.....ooooh the hurtin'). Then, ended up using bleach solution to help, did that twice, hosed completely. Finally, used Restore-A-Deck brightener on it per directions. Looked better than the day it was installed. Let dry a week.

For staining/sealing, per your advice it was either DEFY or TWP 1500 for wet weather. I went with TWP, did deck first, rails 2nd. This really should have been a 2 person job---weather was coming, had to hurry, got 1 good coat on it, per directions, wiped off excess.

SO FAR, the deck looks incredible, like a piece of fine furniture. Water beads up on all of it. If it looks this good next summer, then at the 2 year mark I will clean, brighten, and recoat. Thanks again!
Oregon , December 17, 2012
re: For a luster appearance
We sell penetrating stains that do not leave a shine or luster. Putting a shiny finish on your mahogany will result in peeling and more maintenance. I would prep by cleaning and then use the Armstrong Clark stain in the Mahogany color.
TheSealerStore , November 20, 2012
Three year old Mahoney deck that was stained twice with a semi- transparent
Stain . Last stained 6 months ago. Very dull appearance - what do you recommend
For a luster appearance. also should I clean before applying product.
Jennifer Finn , November 17, 2012
re: Armstrong Clark for teak furniture
Amber would be best as it offers better UV protection then the Cedar color and would highlight the natural tones of the teak.
TheSealerStore , October 24, 2012
Armstrong Clark for teak furniture
I'm considering Armstrong Clark for a set of new teak furniture. The furniture will be outside in southern CA. I've read about people using Cedar and the new Amber color. Is one preferred over the other? We want to keep the golden teak color. Also, which is better, transparent or semi-transparent? Or is there another product better suited for this?
Peteer , October 23, 2012
re: wood deck restoration
It is not possible to get new wood to look like old wood or vice versa. I would clean and brighten both and then stain with a semi-transparent stain. The new wood will be lighter in color a little though. Restore-A-Deck products would work for the prepping. As for the stain, I would look at TWP.
TheSealerStore , October 05, 2012
wood deck restoration
I just bought some cleaning product from Home Depot which I plan on returning after reading your web site.
I have an old redwood deck that has grayed next to a new redwood deck. I want to make them both look the same without a lot of work, but I am willing to do whatever needs to be done. Do I sand? Clean? strip? all of the above? Do I use Linseed Oil? or stain? If I use stain I want transparent stain as I don't like "painted" look. I even think grey is pretty, but tne new deck is the redwood color. I don't know what to do.
Loraine , October 04, 2012
re: Raised grain on redwood
Very gray decks can have this happen as you are removing the layers of wood cells. If you cannot see the fuzz when wet then you will not see it when stained.
TheSealerStore , September 30, 2012
Raised grain on redwood
Hi: I've cleaned and brightened my 14 month old redwood deck (used Restore-a-deck as directed, also used a scrub brush). It has never had a stain on it before but I am planning to put a semi-transparent oil-based stain on it now. I noticed after the deck dried that there are a lot of areas with a little fuzz on them. Can I just go ahead and stain it as planned or will the fuzz mess things up? If so, what happens? Thx much, L
Lori , September 29, 2012
re: RAD stripper remove Sikkens Cetol DEK Finish (on Ipe)
The RAD stripper should remove the Sikkens as long as the Sikkens was not excessively over applied. It should be over 50 degrees for all to work correctly.
TheSealerStore , September 16, 2012
will the RAD stripper remove Sikkens Cetol DEK Finish (on Ipe)?
Is there a possibility RAD will stain or streak other surfaces?

If using RAD, does it have to be above 50 degrees in order to strip & brighten a COVERED deck ?

Does it have to be above 50 to apply the IPE oil finish?
MaryAnn G , September 15, 2012
re: be hot and drizzle a bit for the next week
Use the deck brightener right away.
TheSealerStore , July 31, 2012
It is going to be hot and drizzle a bit for the next week. I have just finished stripping my deck. When should I use the deck brightener - now and wait a week or two before I stain? Or later wait only a day or two before I actually stain the deck?
Melanie , July 30, 2012
re: Sanding and brightening?
If you want to sand make sure to sand evenly with no higher then 60 grit. when done you should use a wood cleaner and a wood brightener to prep. I would look at the Restore-A-Deck Kits. As for the stain I would consider the TWP 1500 for Southern California.
TheSealerStore , July 25, 2012
Sanding and brightening?

I'm not sure how I stumbled onto this site but I am glad I did.

I have redwood deck that is 6 years old. I live in so california and the weather is typically dry and the deck gets a lot of midday sun. I've used Home Depot products (Behr, Thompsons, Cabot) to seal the deck and I have had to redo it just about every year. In the past I have just washed the deck and then put on a fresh coat of sealer. This time I want to restore the original redwood color as much as possible. At this point I've washed the deck with simple green and there is still some old sealer on the deck that I want to remove. I am confused about what my next step should be. I would like to sand the deck and I assume that will remove the rest of the sealer. Can I do that and then use a brightener? Or should I use a brightener and then sand the deck. Or, do I even need to use a brightener if I sand the deck?
Also, does anyone have any recommendations for a sealer that would work well for my deck considering the age of the redwood and weather?

Thank you.
RobbyB , July 24, 2012
re: Removing solid stain from nail heads
You could try a stain stripper. Not sure if will remove it all but it will remove some. I would try the Restore-A-Deck stain stripper.
TheSealerStore , July 23, 2012
Removing solid stain from nail heads
Sorry if this request is going in twice. Not sure if my previous question successfully transmitted. New to this.
35 year old PTP wood with Behr solid stain in light gray. Stripped and sanded for days.... 90% is finally off except for residue on splinter cracks and nail heads. Any suggestion? Wanted to apply semi transparent oil stain....in a medium wood tone. Had no idea this refinishing would be so difficult !
Thanks for your wonderful site!
Annie , July 23, 2012
re: Can Defy Extreme be tinted
No Defy cannot be tinted.
TheSealerStore , July 16, 2012
Can Defy Extreme be tinted? Do you tint it? Is there a color chart?
Sandy , July 16, 2012
re: Where do I start?
Bob, Armstrong would be a good choice and you can get samples here on this link: Deck Stain Samples
TheSealerStore , July 13, 2012
prepping a wood deck
Is it necessary to sand a deck that has not been treated in four years prior to using the cleaner?
MEJenkins , July 12, 2012
Where do I start?
Just bought a home in Northern Wisconsin. Temp can be −30 or +95. Have South facing decks made from treated pine that sit in full sun year round. Wood must be 15 years old and probably not stained for 10 years. Wood is in OK condition and I would like to extend life by staining. I have a pressure washer. I am thinking that the Armstrong Clark product would do the job. Do they have color samples so can make sure before I buy a pail?

How do I proceed?
Bob Nelson , July 12, 2012
re: Refinishing a deck rail and exterior cedar shakes
Clean and brighten the cedar shakes. For the Stain I would look at TWP 1500 or Armstrong Clark.
TheSealerStore , July 07, 2012
Refinishing a deck rail and exterior cedar shakes
I need to refinish my deck rail and exterior cedar shakes. Both are about 6 years old with original finishes. The stain on the deck rail was almost completely gone so I've sanded and cleaned for the new stain. The cedar shakes are faded in some areas, darkened in others and water stained in other areas. I don't know if the original stain was water or oil based although I accidently hit a small area with the pressure washer and it took the stain completely off. I haven't done any prep on them yet. I'd like to use the same product/color in both areas if possible. What are my best options.
Pete S , July 06, 2012
re: Homeowner
Sounds like you did not prep it well and then did not apply evenly.
TheSealerStore , July 05, 2012
I have a deck that is 1.5 years old and had to re-stain it. I bushed it for cleaning and didn't pressure wash it. The railing turned out great. The horizontal boards didn't, however. The final product was dull, mostly, with some shinning spots.smilies/sad.gif Also, I got spots where the tar from the wood and knot areas. What did I do wrong?
Dr. Chris Noah , July 04, 2012
re: deck restore/stain in chicago
You need to remove the old stain first. The it would be best to apply a penetrating semi-transparent stain for best results. For a dark color, TWP 1503 Dark Oak would be a good choice.
TheSealerStore , June 21, 2012
thank you so much for the help.
1.) If I am power washing the deck, do I need a cleaner/brightener?
2.) Do you have a particular dark shade of penetrating semi-transparent stains that do particularly well in Chicago weather?
byrdiblack , June 21, 2012
deck restore/stain in chicago

I have been losing my mind in deck research and spent 4 hours today driving from one store to another in traffic only to find that very few hardware store employees know about deck staining!

I live in Chicago and have a 2 story deck and porch that is turning green. I know it was sealed and stained a burnt sienna brown color about 7 years ago, so it is due for a treatment.

My uncle, a carpenter, has offered to help me with the power washing and application, and I just have to purchase the materials. Can anyone tell me what would be the best products? I just need something that will last a long time and have good coverage. I'm unsure if I should use oil, water, full coverage latex, or semi transparent. I'm at a total loss with chicago weather!

thank you!
byrdiblack , June 20, 2012
re: Built a new Woodshop
We do not sell solid color stains or paints. You could use any of the penetrating semi-transparent stains that we sell.
TheSealerStore , June 17, 2012
Woodshop Owner
Built a new Woodshop 450 sq f.It has double plywood floors an I need a stain or solid color paint for the floors. The tablesaw is on rollers an moves around the room as well as the bandsaw.The room is Air Conditioned an is located in Clearwater ,Fl.Need Help finding the right coating.
Thank You,
Ronald J. Marth , June 16, 2012
re: A few deck questions
1. Behr can be very difficult to remove. I would use a stain stripper with pressure washing then sand off the rest,
2. Do not use wood filler on outside wood! There is nothing that will fill the cracks on outside and work correctly.
3. Not really
4. A penetrating stain such as Armstrong Clark would be a good choice for Canada.
TheSealerStore , May 24, 2012
A few deck questions
My situation:
- 15 year old deck, pressure treated wood
- Stained with Behr weatherproofing wood finish browntone many years ago (previous owner)
- Neglected for some years. Lots of minor cracks. Seems structurally sound though.
- Restained (by me) with Behr semi-transparent Red Cedar 3 years ago and 1 year ago. Now it is peeling, especially around the cracks.

1. How should I remove the old stain? Pressure wash with stripper? Sanding?
2. What should I do about the cracks? I was thinking of using high quality wood hardener and epoxy wood filler (e.g. PC Woody)
3. Existing stains are quite dark. Is this bad for long term maintenance?
4. What do you recommend for me for long term low maintenance?


Ed in Ontario , May 24, 2012
re: Deck thats just over a year old...
It depends on may things, the prepping of the new wood, the stain that was used, the application of the new stains, etc. At this point you would need to strip it all off, brighten and reapply a penetrating stain.
TheSealerStore , May 22, 2012
Deck thats just over a year old...
I have a deck that was profesionally built/sealed and its just over a year old.It was recently pressure washed with Krud Kutter deck/fence concentrate but there are still visible signs of mold/mildew stains,the wood is splittering/cracking and the stain is chipping away where it was pressure washed..I think I got a bad deal on the wood and service.....Any idea why is this happening.....?
RJ , May 22, 2012
re: Deck Preparation
1. For best results, yes
2. You do not need a cleaner if you strip
4. I would use the Restore-A-Deck Stripper
6. Both Armstrong and TWP can be cleaned and recoated as needed
TheSealerStore , May 21, 2012
Deck Preparation
My deck is 10 years old and was built with the old style pressure treated lumber, which was subsequently dicontinued due to arsenic levels.

About 4 years ago, I used Olympic Maximum Semi-Transparent Cedar.

The deck has some mold and mildew growth.

I need to reseal my deck and am going to use either TWP or Armstrong/Clark:

1. Regarding preparation, Do I need to strip the old sealer off or will cleaning be sufficient?

2. If I need to strip, does the stripper also clean the mold and mildew, or will I have to do both.

3. If I have to do both, which do I do first?

4. I noticed Gemini makes a "Safe Stripper" which is pressure washer injectable, will this product be sufficient or will I need a "Solid Stripper"?

5. What cleaners do you recommend, if I need to clean:
a. TSP to 1 part bleach to 4 parts H20?
b. Sodium precarbonate?
c. Oxcilic Acid?
d. Other - please specify?

6. When I need to redo my deck next time, whether it be 2,3,4,5 years from now, will I need to strip either the TWP or Armstrong?
John Petrancosta , May 21, 2012
re: Mountain Home Redwood deck
You could try the TWP or Armstrong stains.
TheSealerStore , May 21, 2012
Mountain Home Redwood deck
I used Defy (2 coats) on my redwood deck last year and after one winter of heavy New Mexico mountain snow there is no evidence that there is any of it left. I'm back to resealing again. Considering the harsh conditions what product would you recommend.
mike heckman , May 20, 2012
re: Tatajuba hardwood
I would use a stripper to remove as much as possible then sand off the rest if needed.
TheSealerStore , May 19, 2012
Tatajuba hardwood
Not sure what kind of Sikkins but there are sticky,peeling spots
Terry , May 18, 2012
re: I have a deck made with Tatajuba Hardwood
It really depends on which Sikkens you used. Some are removable with a stripper and some are not.
TheSealerStore , May 18, 2012
I have a deck made with Tatajuba Hardwood. It's 20 yrs old and been neglected the last 5 or 6 i.e. not regular staining and cleaning. I haven't been able to find a contractor that can make it look good. The last product used was Sikkins with unsatisfactory results. I settled on Messmers natural but it is turning the deck a dark grey and we want a honey-brown red color. I think the part of the problem is in the prep.Our contractor used Jomax stripper but it is not getting the stain off and the Restore-a-deck products were not used this year. Need Advice on a stronger stripper or should deck be sanded and we start all over? Is there also a different stain that would end up a better color than grey?
Terry , May 18, 2012
re: recommendations please
I would prep the deck with the Restore-A-Deck Products. As for the stain I would look at the TWP 1500 Series or or Armstrong Clark Stain
TheSealerStore , May 15, 2012
recommendations please
need product recommendations to clean reseal/stain an older treated deck. Wood is pressure treated pine, previously treated with thompson's- it's not been treated in a couple years, there is not much stain left in most areas, a little greenish discoloration (mold?) in some areas. deck is covered by a roof and faces east. most gets no sun.
we live in ohio. snowy cold winters, lots of rain in spring and fall.hot humid summers. we have 3 Big Dogs. typically the dog traffic area (stairs to back yard, from stairs to back door) gets a lot of wear.
jeri simmons , May 15, 2012
re: rough sawn cedar (2)
Pam, I would look at the TWP 100 Series or the TWP 1500 Series for this house.
TheSealerStore , May 11, 2012
rough sawn cedar (2)
Northeast Tennessee mountains. House is round, so all exposures. Mild winters, hot & humid summers, even rainfall throughout the year. Some algae & lichen growth on north/shady sides (we're in the forest). Thanks again.
Pam , May 11, 2012
re: Is it possible to restore rough-sawn cedar siding?
Pam, you can restore the cedar's natural color by using a wood cleaner to remove the dirt, grime, graying then brighten the wood. I would look at the Restore-A-Deck Kits.

As for the stain, it does depend on where you live. What state do you leave in?
TheSealerStore , May 11, 2012
Is it possible to restore rough-sawn cedar siding?
Our house is covered in rough-sawn 1" thick cedar planks, 25 years old, never been stained or preserved, very dark. The wood seems to be solid, just dirty, dark and old-looking. Is there a way to treat this wood siding so it will look beautiful and cedar-like again, and then apply a stain that will preserve its appearance and integrity? If so, What should we use, how should we do it and what should we finish it with? Many thanks.
Pam , May 10, 2012
re: Time to restain with TWP 101 Ceder Tone
I would use the Restore-A-Deck Kits to clean and brighten. I would stay with the TWP 100 Series. No reason to switch if you like something!
TheSealerStore , May 09, 2012
Time to restain with TWP 101 Ceder Tone
I re stain my deck every two or three years and for the last two cycles I have used TWP 101 Ceder Tone with excellent results. I put a fabric gazebo on the deck for most of the spring and summer so the stain is not exposed to that much sun but some areas not covered by the gazebo are a bit more worn than others. The last time I stained two years ago I completely stripped the old TWP 101 off using Extreme Solutions HD-80 stripper. Even with this powerful stripper I was not able to completely remove all of the old TWP 101 from some areas (thats how good it is). I followed that treatment with Wolman Deck Brite wood cleaner and coating prep and then a fresh coat of TWP 101.

This year I am wondering if it is possible to skip the HD-80 stripper and only clean and brighten the deck and then apply a coat of TWP101 over the old TWP 101 that is still visable. If I can do this which cleaner brightener do you recommend and is their any advantage to switching to the more expensive TWP 1500 series stain.
Bill Wonsik , May 08, 2012
The previous stain was a worthless Behr product. It hasn't failed on the vertical surfaces so rather than go over it now, I was going to wait and do them latter as they are so time consuming to both strip and stain.
mccpesh , May 08, 2012
re: owner
What brand is the old product? If a different brand then it would be best to remove it so the Defy Extreme will adhere well.

I would be careful of sanding. It can hinder the stain's ability to penetrate properly. Only do it if needed and lightly with no more then 60 grit.
TheSealerStore , May 07, 2012
I'm in St. Louis.

I used an Oxygen bleach (from Tim the Builder) to clean and plan on using the Defy Extreme stain.

Is it ok to leave the old product on the vertical surfaces? They don't look great but they aren't deteriorated.

My bench and the top of the railing have become very rough so my understanding is that I can sand them with 60 grit and then clean them again. I can do the same to the deck surface if I want to.

Is that correct?
mccpesh , May 07, 2012
re: numerous white spots here and there
Brightener would not remove white spots. The spots are either bard wood showing through an old stain that has come partially off or some kind of residue from the cleaner. Hard to say for sure. Do you have an old stain on the deck? You might want to clean and brighten again with a better product.

Restore-A-Deck Kits
TheSealerStore , May 03, 2012
I used Krud Kutter Deck and Fence and no I did not use a brightener. Will the brightener get rid of the white spots? Which kind?
Jean Scharbach , May 03, 2012
rea: numerous white spots here and there
Which cleaner did you use? Did you use a wood brightener when you were done?
TheSealerStore , May 01, 2012
I cleaned with Deck cleaner and power washed---after it dried,I noticed
numerous white spots here and there--what can I do about this??
Jean Scharbach , May 01, 2012
re: Refinishing pressure treated
I would go ahead and use the Step 1 to clean the wood after the sanding. It will help improve penetration of the stain into the wood.
TheSealerStore , April 24, 2012
Refinishing pressure treated
I recently ordered the restore a deck kit for refinishing my deck before realizing that I needed a stripper to remove the previous stain. After purchasing the needed stripper and removing the stain it was neutralized with the step 2. I plan on sanding the deck with 60 and 80 grit sandpaper to remove the high spots. Would it be overkill and a waste to then clean with step 1 and brighten again with the step 2 after sanding. Probably wont be a couple of weeks until I get a chance to stain. Ive heard that sanding closes the pores so I'm thinking that a light powerwashing with step 1 will help open em up, any thoughts.
Chad , April 24, 2012
re: is TWP a good choice (the best choice) for this deck?
Absolutely. TWP is one of our top selling stains that performs very well and is much easier to maintain then the CWF in the future.
TheSealerStore , April 23, 2012
I live in Durham, NC and have a 13 year old pressure-treated deck to which at least three coats of Flood CWF-UV (cedar) had been applied. I stripped the deck with HD-80, pressure washed, and followed with Citralic Wood Brightner, washed again and then sanded all the spots the stripper did not remove. This deck gets intense sunshine in the summer and with our humidity in NC it also gets mildew in some of the shady areas. I plan to seal/stain the deck with TWP 1530 (Natural).

Here is my question, is TWP a good choice (the best choice) for this deck?
lrhodges , April 22, 2012
re: useing restore on my pool deck
Not sure what you mean. What restore stain are you asking about?
TheSealerStore , April 18, 2012
useing restore on my pool deck
i had just replaced some wood on the deck, and the other half has cwf stain on it, for years now. do i put the restore stain on like it is, half stained and half unstained new wood ?
deb , April 18, 2012
re: defy vs twp 1500 for deck in CT
Both the TWP 1500 and the Defy extreme are very good stains. One is not better then the other in my opinion but they are different. TWP is a semi-transparent oil based stain while Defy is a water based stain.
TheSealerStore , April 13, 2012
defy vs twp 1500 for deck in CT
stripping and refinishing an old desk 20+ years that has had a variety of finishes on and off. Years ago used TWP 100 and it last a good 4 years, Then completely stripped, cleaned and used some type of behr that seemed to be top rated. Need to do again, in the process of stripping, cleaning. Looking at TWP 1550 vs. Defy. Deck is in sun, shade and a portion around an in ground pool.

Cindy , April 12, 2012
re: Cedar deck finish
You are welcome!

The Wolman F&P will be much easier to strip off then the Behr. I would look at the Restore-A-Deck Stripper and Brightener.

I would look at the TWP Stains.

Nothing well stop the heavy wearing from scooters and trikes.

TheSealerStore , April 12, 2012
Cedar deck finish
Thank you for your website! Finally somewhere to find some help! We have lived in our home for 5 1/2 years. The large deck was freshly stained before we moved in and looked beautiful! We are about to stain it for the third time since! The first time, used Behr weatherproofing sealer & finish. Second time, my husband spent hours using Wolman deck strip & then sanded the deck with a power sander as well (now have read that is a no-no), finished with F & P finish & preservative (per advice of hardware store clerk). NOTHING has worked!! We are ready to stain again and also have to stain our fence that surrounds our backyard...we have not had to do that yet. I was wondering if you had any suggestions for products to use. It is a large cedar deck and we have young children that ride trikes/scooters on it as well, so lots of traffic. Thank you for any help you can offer!!!
Lauren C , April 12, 2012
re: How soon can I reapply Deft Extreme clear?
More is not better as the Defy Extreme is a penetrating finish. I would wait at least 6 months.
TheSealerStore , April 09, 2012
How soon can I reapply Deft Extreme clear?
After washing and brightning my buddies deck I applied two coats wet on wet Five gallons of Extreme clear and it soaked it right up, I would like to apply another coat or two while deck is still clean. So how soon can it be reapplied?
Chas , April 09, 2012
re: Rich Sr.
Rich, IPE is extremely dense wood. All stains will fade substantially faster on this type of wood. Here are a few others that you can try without having any issues:

Messmers Hardwood Stain
TheSealerStore , April 07, 2012
Rich Sr.
I normally order Penofin every year for the last (smilies/cool.gif eight years. I just wanted to know if there's anything better then Penofin for a Brazilian hardwood namely Ipe. Penofin looks beautiful when done, almost like furniture but the finish is very short lived. In as little as a month it looks as though it wasn't stained. Haven’t found anything better and basically afraid to use other products for fear of not drying properly due to the nature of the wood itself. I'm about to make my yearly order from you but I figured I would ask you this question before ordering. Thanks for any help you can extend to us. Happy holiday to you all...


Richard A. Castaldi
Richard A. Castaldi , April 06, 2012
Re:refinishing a 15-year old large deck
Here are a couple of stains that will work well:

TWP 100 Series
Armstrong Clark Stain
TheSealerStore , April 03, 2012
Re:refinishing a 15-year old large deck
Thank you for the recommendation. What stain would you recommend to best suit the weather, shade, and foliage conditions?
Sherry Dodd , April 03, 2012
RE: Refinishing a 15-year old large deck
Water based semi-transparent acrylic deck stains like the Deckscapes are the most difficult to remove. They are basically "thin" paints that sit on the wood. Strippers can have difficulty penetrating through theses types of stains. They cans still be removed but you will need to have some patience. I would look at a powder stripper as they are very effective and are more cost efficient then liquid strippers.

Restore-A-Deck Stain Stripper
HD80 Stain Stripper
TheSealerStore , April 03, 2012
RE: Refinishing a 15-year old large deck
I'm 99% sure the SW Deckscapes was water-based. The stripper I used is one highly recommended by a local supplier called CleanBrite. It's a liquid concentrate that says it's a stripper, cleaner and degreaser. In reality, it is junk and a waste of 30 bucks! The second stripper was Wohlmans stripper. It was only used on a small section of railing due to the small quantity on hand. The local retailer is not longer carrying Wohlman products.
Another piece of information I failed to include in the first comment is that the deck is highly shaded and no one area receives more than 4 hours of sun a day.
Sherry Dodd , April 03, 2012
re: Refinishing a 15-year old large deck
Did you use the SW Deckscapes in the water based or oil based version? What stains strippers have you tried?
TheSealerStore , April 02, 2012
Refinishing a 15-year old large deck
Thank you for the excellent web site. I am in the process of refinishing a large, 15-year old cedar deck. It was stripped about 6 years ago and stained with Wohlman F & P stain. The horizontal surfaces did not hold up well. They were redone 2 years ago and a Sherwin Williams Deckscape semi-transparent was applied. Of course, it didn't hold up either and now everything needs to be stripped and refinished. The Wohlman product is still on the vertical surfaces and does not want to leave it's current location and the Sherwin Williams stuff refuses to budge. I've tried 2 different stripping products and both have failed miserable. Graying, mold, and mildew are still visible after powerwashing and stripping product were used. We are located in the St. Louis area in a rural, heavily wooded location. The deck is a wrap-around design with south (25' x 14') and west (11' x 13') exposure sitting 9 feet from the ground. I solicit your expertise in recommending products to remove the old product and suggest the best suited new product application. Thank you!
Sherry Dodd , April 02, 2012
re: ceder fence
Using a tinted transparent stain or sealer will enhance the color of the wood depending on the color picked.
Scott Paul - Over 17 Years of Experience , March 15, 2012
ceder fence
I cleaned my fence and the color same back it's only 6 months old I was going to seal it but the next day it was faded looking again. Will the color come through when I seal it?
Lillie Evans , March 15, 2012
re: After about 12 years of oil-based staining
It depends on the brand of latex stain and the type of stain it was. Not all latex stains can be removed. For example a solid color stain cannot be stripped off but some of the latex acrylic semi-transparents can be removed.
TheSealerStore , March 14, 2012
After about 12 years of oil-based staining, my hardware store convinced me to used a latex-based stain which I applied after sanding all my decks. The results have been very disappointing with the dirt quickly accumulating everywhere. How can I best go back to an oil-based stain?
David Benjamin , March 14, 2012
re: weathered beams
It is not really possible to use a wood cleaner and wood brightener in an inside home ceiling without making a mess below. I would advise against it.
TheSealerStore , March 09, 2012
weathered beams
I've recently completed construction on a post and beam home in Canada; However, before construction was completed, many of the doug fir beams became weathered and have turned dark grey. What is the best and safest product to get them back to their natural state? And finally, what's the best way to protect the installed wood floors when applying the products.


Donald Ferris
Donald Ferris , March 09, 2012
re: spindles keep rotting at the bottom
Unfortunately priming and painting exterior wood decking is not the way to go. It will not allow the wood to "breathe". The issue is compounded where the bottom of the spindle meets the horizontal wood. All water is is being contained at the bottom, causing the wood rot.

There is not much you can do now as it is not possible to remove the primer, paint, and caulk completely. Your best bet would be to replace all the railings and apply a semi-transparent wood stain.
TheSealerStore , January 19, 2012
I am trying this again because I dont think my first comment went thru. I built a Victorian country style home in Texas. It has an 800 square foot porch which is built from pressure treated pine. The turned post and spindles are also PTP. Being Victorian naturally all of the rails,post,and spindles are painted white. My problem is that all of the spindles keep rotting at the bottom where they are attached to bottom rail. I have replaced several of these twice. All of the materials were primed with exterior Kiltz and painted with a high quality exterior latex paint. Before painting everything was caulked. My thoughts now are that with the spindles standing upright and caulked at the bottom the excess moisture in the spindles drain down to the bottom and is trapped which eventually causes rot. Your thoughts on this would be a great help and may also keep someone else from going thru the same thing I have. By the way on the ones I replaced I waited for a month before I caulked the bottom and painted.
Dewey Fitzgerald , January 19, 2012
re: Black deck comeback
Thanks for the praise!

I good rinse and brightening should be enough if it has been 3-4 weeks since you stripped with the HD80.

It is possible that mold spores got into the stain before or during the curing process. Cabot has reformulated numerous times over the last few years and their current version has had issues with drying properly. Stays sticky and tacky longer.
TheSealerStore , January 02, 2012
Black deck comeback
Thanks the website is awesome. We purchased the Extreme stain. Could I just use the brightener at this point if only 3-4 weeks go by since I had to use the HD80 at a heavy dose to strip the old stain. The railings/pickets were murder to strip (90ft). The Cabot stain at 5 months old on the vertical surfaces was murder to get off. Applying the HD80 with a soft brush 3 or 4 times per picket, misting with water to keep wet. Good grief what a job.
The deck looked immaculent prior to staining with the Cabot. I also wonder if a layer of pollen was there and once trapped it just grew like wildfire. It looks like we'll have good weather this Thurs/Fri/Sat to get the Defy on.
sterling , January 01, 2012
re: black deck comeback
After the cleaning you should wait 2 days. I would rewash if you wait more the a couple weeks.

I would switch to a different brand that is not prone to turning black.

TWP 1500 Series
Defy Extreme Stains
TheSealerStore , January 01, 2012
black deck comeback
How long can a deck sit after cleaning/neutralizing prior to staining? In relation to mold spores. It is winter in NC now, but we can potentionally have numerous days in a row at 55-65F. I'm wondering how long I can wait for this opportunity.

Hello, I stained a 4 month old deck without washing ( I knew better, but the deck looked clean as a whistle). Any way the Cabot oil based stain that I've used for many years with success even on new decks turned extremely black in 2 months. I have to redo my friends deck. It is a monster deck. Why couldn't this have happened on a 15X15. Mildew/Mold/Algae ate the stain in front of our eyes.

I have stripped with HD80 and neutralized.
sterling , December 30, 2011
re: cedar deck that hasn't been stained
You cannot apply a stain over the graying wood. Please read this as the the proper steps and products needed to restore. Deck Stain Help
TheSealerStore , October 09, 2011
We have a cedar deck that hasn't been stained--is it possible to still stain it to help protect it? If so, what product(s) would you recommend? And, should the deck be sanded, or can we just apply right over the graying wood?
Bonnie , October 09, 2011
re: I have a wooden deck-can I put used brick on top of it?
I would not do that.
TheSealerStore , September 19, 2011
I have a wooden deck-can I put used brick on top of it?
vleete , September 18, 2011
re: Cedar turning Black
Besides brightening again there is not much else you can do.
TheSealerStore , September 13, 2011
Cedar turning Black
I started stripping my cedar deck this past weekend with Defy stripper. I am removing Wolman’s Durastain. Once the stripper was applied and the old stain removed the wood turned black. I did apply Defy wood brightener twice. The second application was full strength. This did lighten the wood some but it is still very dark. I also noticed wood fibers as I was brushing the wood to remove the old stain. Do you have any suggestions?
Eric Hayes , September 13, 2011
re: hard wood furniture
I would use a wood cleaner to prep followed by the Armstrong Clark Stain in the Mahogany color.
TheSealerStore , September 12, 2011
I have some hard wood furniture that has been stained with a redwood stain. It has bleached out under our Arizona sun. What do you suggest to restore it?
Dee Turner , September 11, 2011
re: sanding cedar
Power sanding the entire deck "closes" the pores of the wood. This allows for less penetration which in turn can cause premature failure of the stain as it can dry on the surface instead of in the wood.
TheSealerStore , September 08, 2011
sanding cedar
What I planned on doing was sanding the entire floor surface and hand railing prior to staining.
Eric Hayes , September 08, 2011
re: Sanding Cedar
I am not a fan of sanding wood especially spot sanding. This will cause an uneven appearance when the stain is applied.
TheSealerStore , September 08, 2011
Sanding Cedar
I own a cedar deck which is now ten years old. I am in the process of stripping it and then will stain with Armstrong Clark. My question is currently it is a bit rough in spots. Is it okay to sand cedar? I plan on using a U-Sand sander, which is a random orbit sander with 80 grit sandpaper.
Eric Hayes , September 08, 2011
re: Mahogony colored stain
You can see the color on this link: Armstrong Clark Stain
TheSealerStore , September 06, 2011
re: homeowner
Rain does contain minerals that can dry on the wood like white spots. If the spots "rub" off with a damp rag then that is what is causing this. This would not be there fault.

Was the line there when they were done or did it form later after the rain? Sometimes house do not have gutters and lines can form where the rain comes straight down and washes it away.

It is hard to say if they are at fault or not. I would have to see a picture do offer an opinion.
TheSealerStore , September 06, 2011
Mahogony colored stain
There is no Mahogony colored stain on the Armstrong Clark Website.Where do I find it?
gail , September 06, 2011
We had our deck pressure washed and 'sealed' by professional national paint company in early June. Now it's 3 months later and there are white spots appearing everywhere that's not under deck roof; i.e. rain sits for day or so afterwards. Did they not put enough sealer or what?! I want them to come back and redo the entire deck. It looks terrible and we want to list our house for sale!? We also have a line down the right side where it looks like they didn't put a second coat; it just ends and looks drier than rest of deck. It's hard to believe they are professionals and charged us $800! What do you think?
D. Walekr , September 06, 2011
re: rails
For prepping the peeling railing top you would need a stain stripper.

For the mahogany deck you will need to prep and re stain. Please read this for help: Deck Restoration Help
TheSealerStore , September 06, 2011
I have white railing around my deck with a 2x8 top rail. This is pealing, how should I prep this when painting to have the best results?

also, I have a mahogony deck (not sure what the previous owners stained with, any suggestions with products prep and stain?
Tara , September 06, 2011
re: very old redwood on my deck
It is not possible to match old wood with new wood as older wood is more absorbent. This typically means you will get a darker color on the older wood and lighter color on the new. Make sure to clean and use a wood brightener on all the wood to set the pH balance evenly. This will give you the closest match.
TheSealerStore , September 04, 2011
re: clean it with Restore-a-Deck every year then re-apply
No stains will last more then 12-18 months on a hardwood deck such as Mahogany. The Armstrong will last longer then Penofin. Yes you will see the natural grain of the wood with Armstrong stain.
TheSealerStore , September 04, 2011
I have some very old redwood on my deck - 20 years. Also new redwood - repairs. I have sanded the old - needed it for many reasons. How do I prevent the old with the sanded open grain to become very dark with any redwood stain - - Objective is to come close in shade to the new redwood?
Les Lambert , September 04, 2011
Would I need to clean it with Restore-a-Deck every year then re-apply? Why is Armstrong better than Penofin? Is the Armstrong Clark Mahogany Stain a semi transparent as I want to see the grain of the Mahogany.
gail , September 03, 2011
re: Mahogany Deck
I would look at the Armstrong Clark Stain in the mahogany tint. It offers excellent uv protection and can be cleaned and re coated whenever needed.
TheSealerStore , September 03, 2011
Mahogany Deck
I'm in the Boston area and had a large Phillipine/Meranti Mahogany deck installed last year, southern exposure, so alot of sun, snow, and rain. We put thePenofin Exotic Transparent/Natural tone on last year to seal it. This year the railings look like original wood but the horizontal pieces are
brownishblack. I plan on using Restore-a Deck 2 step to clean and balance ph. What is the least labor intensive finish to use? If I stick with Penofin, should I use a light stain for more uv protection. Is there enough mold/mildew resistence in Penofin?
gail , September 02, 2011
re: replacement boards
New wood will not match old wood even if the same type. Most decks are built from Pressure Treated Pine, Cedar, or Redwood.

You could take a piece to your local lumber yard to determine the type.
TheSealerStore , September 02, 2011
replacement boards
when replacing cracked and broken deck boards, how do you know the type of wood to buy?
how do you know what the existing wood is, do they need to match or be the same type to look right? I understand that they will look different that the other older boards regardless, but what is recommended? redwood, douglas fir, kiln dried..
Tom , September 01, 2011
re: Which Defy stain for NW deck environment?
The Defy Extreme offers better UV protection and better mildew protection then the Defy Hardwood stain. The Defy Hardwood stain does penetrate better though.

The better the stain penetrates the less chance of peeling especially in cold weather states.

It is a toss up but if it was me I would use the Extreme for your environment.
TheSealerStore , August 05, 2011
Which Defy stain for NW deck environment?
I want your recommendation on which Defy stain to use for our situation.
Background: We have a large 12 year old, west facing deck (yellow cedar) on the Olympic Peninsula in Washington state, which gets a good bit of moisture, tree debris, pollen, and resultant mildew and algae. We used a water-based, Behr semi-transparent deck stain on this deck four years ago, which started to deteriorate in some areas of the deck in little more than a year even though some protected areas of the deck are still holding up okay. I've done a good bit of internet research, with which your website has been very helpful (great website!). I have narrowed my stain choice for restoring our deck to the water-based Defy stains mostly because of environmental reasons and not wanting to use mineral spirits or combustible stains. What are the considerations (e.g., mildew resistance), ease of use, and longevity between Defy Extreme Stain and Defy Stain for Hardwood? Thanks, Jim
Jim Arnold , August 05, 2011
re: Ipe sealer
You cannot apply in selected areas. Must apply to entire deck.

If not a "stain" then it will not do anything for uv protection. Need a tint to do that.

There is not a clear sealer that will stop grease stains 100%. Minimize but not stop.

You could look at TWP Clear or Defy Extreme Clear
TheSealerStore , July 19, 2011
Ipe sealer
I have an Ipe deck and dock over the water at the NJ shore. It originally had sickens applied which was horrible. It didn't fade uniformly. When the salt water splashed on the deck it wore off the sealer but only in those areas. Horrible to strip. COuldn't touch up. Had to use HD 80 which made the wood light yellow. Not the rich color it was originally. Only about 4 or 5 years old. Now looking to apply a sealer in selected areas so if food is spilled, it won't leave a grease mark which can only be removed with a power washer. I've regretting anything I've done to the deck so far. Any great ideas??? Don't even think of a stain! Thank you.
Steven , July 18, 2011
re: re-sealing decks
Most stains need to be reapplied every 2-3 years. Make sure to prep the wood first. The Restore-A-Deck system works very well.

You can use the same product if you want or switch to a better stain.
TheSealerStore , July 17, 2011
re-sealing decks
2 years ago I applied Cabot Australian timber oil to my 1 year old decks. This was the first time they were sealed. How long does this last? And if I need to re-seal them do I use the exact Cabot product again or is there another Cabot product that is used when it's not the first time it's sealed?
Anne , July 16, 2011
re: Mr
Best to use a deck cleaner and a deck brightener with the use of a pressure washer as a rinsing tool. I would look at the Restore-A-Deck
TheSealerStore , July 13, 2011
Have a pressure treated pine deck; app. 10-12 years old. Has had Thompson's water sealer applied twice in that period. Never been stained.
Want to stain it now. Is pressure washing it prior to staining adequate or should I wash with products recommended for removing old sealer?
Deck is in good shape just looks bad.
John Lockman , July 12, 2011
re: rain storm dumped 4 inches of rain
I would think you are okay since it had been 14 hours.
TheSealerStore , July 08, 2011
I just cleaned,brightend and stained my deck with TWP1500.A unexpected rain storm dumped 4 inches of rain 14 hours after my application.Should I clean and restain?
rmolosh , July 07, 2011
re: is there a better time/season to apply wood sealers???
Not really. Stains/sealers do have temperature restrictions.
TheSealerStore , July 03, 2011
is there a better time/season to apply wood sealers???
t mc mahon , July 02, 2011
re: MS
I would start here on this link: Deck Stain Help

It contains all the needed info and links to the correct products to prep and apply a stain to your deck.
TheSealerStore , June 27, 2011
I have recently bought a house that has a roof deck. I don't know what is currently applied to it, but it shows signs of wear and a bit of mildew. The deck is made of wood, which the inspector told me is mahogony (but I don't know how to verify this). I would like to do what is necessary to clean and re-stain the deck. What do you recommend?
Gabrielle , June 27, 2011
re: New fencing
I would look at one of these stains for your fence in your state:

Defy Extreme Stain
TWP 1500 Series
Armstrong Clark Stain

All will give you many years of protection on a fence.
TheSealerStore , June 20, 2011
New fencing
I have just had 300 ft of western red cedar 6' privacy fence installed and need coat it. What do I need to do next? I live in Wyoming where it is dry, windy and lots of sun. I like the look of the natural red cedar and do not want it to grey. What would be the best product that, as a single home owner, I will not have to redo every year? I have looked at Defy and Penofin but the more I read the more confused I get. Thanks for the help
Julie Mead , June 20, 2011
re: sanding
After stripping/cleaning but prior to staining. Be careful as to not over sand as the stain may absorb differently there. Can come out lighter in color where sanded.
TheSealerStore , June 06, 2011
At one point in the process (stripping through to staining) should I sand down rough boards?
Jennifer A. , June 06, 2011
re: Garapa Brazilian Hardwood Decking
No, not all oil-based stains will encourage mold. Mold can grow on any surface.

Please read the articles on how to strip and brighten a deck: How To Deck Help. This will walk you through the procedures.

You might want to look at the Armstrong Clark in the Amber Color if you do not want it to be a Mahogany.
TheSealerStore , May 30, 2011
Garapa Brazilian Hardwood Decking
The Rymar stain that my contractor applied to my new Garapa decking is failing and mold is developing and uneven areas are developing throughout the deck. I do not want to use a Maghogany stain and that is why I did not purhase the IPE. My current color is called Canary and is a beautiful rich caramel like color. Do all oil based stains encourage mold? It has been recommended by this site to use a stain stripper and lightener. Do these steps need to be done on my hands and knees, which is how I applied the second coat of the Rymar stain 4 months after the first coat was applied. Do I choose a Transparent or Semi-transparent stain? I really need someone help on this deck project!
Sally Nisley , May 30, 2011
re: shipping/out of stock
The Biowash Natural Deck Oil is out of stock and we do not plan on getting back in stock in the near future. Distribution is pretty much non existent for the Biowash product.

I would look at the Defy Extreme Stain.

Shipping charges can easily be determined by adding the product to cart. At checkout there is a shipping calculator to see the rates.
TheSealerStore , May 23, 2011
Hello again,
We have other questions :

-We used cedar tone deck oil on meleze vertical wood. It really baddly needs to be restored. It's already been 10 years... Should we use the same product? Do you have some new better products to suggest?
-Do we habe to put supernatural protective wood finish system at the end? We rather save$$!! But we want to do it right...
-One more detail: we live in St-Christophe d'Arthabaska,Quebec, Canada... Home much is the shipping for 5 gallons?
Thanks again,
Sophie Gilbert , May 23, 2011
out of stock?
We need cedar tone deck oil to restor the outside wood part of our house. We used it 10 years ago. It really needs to be done as soon as possible. We read that this product is presently out of stock. Can you tell for how long? When will this product be avalable again?
Thank you for a quick answer,
Sophie Gilbert
Sophie Gilbert , May 23, 2011
re: Homeowner
Your best bet is to strip and brighten everything including the rails and go with a semi-transparent stain. You should not apply over the Cabot Clear with another brand.

There is no "clear" on the market that is UV reistant for 2-3 years. You must have a tint/color in the stain to achieve this.
TheSealerStore , May 16, 2011
I've been using a Cabot "Clear Solutions" product on my cedar deck for the past 5 years. Every year I have to strip/brighten the deck on the horizontal surfaces in the spring. I use a Behr product to do this and then apply the Cabot "Clear Solutions". It looks great but I'm getting tired of doing this process every spring. The vertical surfaces I do not have to strip/brighten, but simply re-apply the Cabot "Clear Solutions" product. Is there a product on the market that I can apply over the Cabot "Clear Solutions" that will get me another 2 -3 years without having to strip/brighten? I'm thinking that there has to be a clear coat UV resistant product out there. The deck gets a lot of sunlight during the day. The last thing I want to do is to go with a tinted or semi-resistant prouduct and not having it match the vertical rails. I want the horizontal surfaces to match the vertical surfaces. If I go this route can I simply apply the tinted or semi-transparent prouduct on the vertical surfaces and make it match? Or do I have remove the vertical rails and install new ones to make it match the horizontal deck surface? It seems to me that there would be too much time and labor to try to strip/brighten the vertical rails? Any ideas or comments I surely welcome.
Jason , May 15, 2011
Re: your Defy Marine Wood Sealer Stain:

Your questions were already answered on this page:
TheSealerStore , May 11, 2011
Re; your Defy Marine Wood Sealer Stain:

Is this marine grade sealer oil-based? Also is it in stock and how long is shop time to Maryland for 4 5-gallon containers? What is your return policy if I only use 3 of the 4 containers?

Also, how many years until I have to re-do the sealer? The description says not to apply this over previously stained surfaces (which mine is not at this point) but what happens in x number of years when I need to re-power wash and re-sealer my dock and stairs--can I use this product again?
lee , May 10, 2011
re: Staining options for pressure treated wooden structures and decks
For the wood that has a previous stains it would be best to use a stain stripper ans a wood brightener. For the new wood you should use a wood cleaner and a wood brightener. Might want to read these articles for better tips:

Deck Restore Tips

Once the wood is prepped properly the stain will match on all thre structures.

For New Jersey climate I would look at:

Defy Extreme
TWP 1500 Series
Armstrong Clark
TheSealerStore , May 09, 2011
Staining options for pressure treated wooden structures and decks
Am in the process of preparing to stain 3 different wooden structures in our backyard, a 24' x 24' western red cedar deck that has been stained with Cabots Autrailian Timber oil stain, a 10' x 10', 3 year old, pressure treated lumber arbor that has not been treated with any finish, and a 12' x 14' pressure treated lumber hot tub deck that has been stained with a water born semi-transparent stain 5 years ago and is very worn.

I would like to prepare and stain all three structures to look at least close in appearance. Can you advise on how to best prepare the pressure treated lumber structures and staining options for pressure treated lumber that will result in an even finish that will match the cedar.

Thank you-

Mike G
Brick, NJ
Mike G , May 08, 2011
re: Co-Owner small remodeling/repair business
Any of the deck stains/sealers we sell are of the highest quality available.

Take inconsideration that have a "tint" in the sealer is what prolongs the UV graying. Some of our best are:

Defy Extreme
TWP Stains
Armstrong Clark
TimberOil Brand
Penofin Stains
TheSealerStore , May 07, 2011
Co-Owner small remodeling/repair business
Have just completed power washing a wood deck around above ground pool and owner wants to put some type sealer on wood. Any suggestions as what to use and how to apply...First time project ......Thanks
X-PO , May 07, 2011
re: installed a pre-treated McFarland Cascade ipe deck last fall
Yes you should always use a wood cleaner. Never wash with just water as too much pressure can damage the wood. The cleaner makes the process more efficient and easier.

The wood brightener neutralizes the wood cleaner or stain stripper. yes it is needed. It will make the wood look better and the stain will last longer if the pH of the wood is neutral.

IPE is the extremely dense. Typically requires a coat of stain annually because of this. I would look at:

Armstrong Clark in Mahogany Color
Defy Stain for Hardwoods in Light Walnut
Messmers UV Plus for Hardwoods
TheSealerStore , May 06, 2011
We installed a pre-treated McFarland Cascade ipe deck last fall. It has since
weathered to a drab gray and we would like to restore it to the rich red-brown it came in. Do we have to use a chemical cleaner or can we use a pressure washer on a lower pressure to do the deck cleaning before we treat it? Is it necessary to use a wood brightener after the cleaning? I know you handle multiple stains for the ipe, but, from your experience, which will last the longest. We live in Utah but the deck is under mostly shade during the summer.
kelly jensen , May 05, 2011
re: Deck DIY'er
1. Do not use a crack filler on outside wood. It does not work.
2. Only lightly hand sand to remove splinters. Do not power sand.
3. Strip all the wood is fine. No need to use a wood cleaner if you are using a stain stripper.

Might want to read this article: 101 Deck Restore Tips
TheSealerStore , May 02, 2011
re: sealant application
Best to follow manufacturer's directions.
TheSealerStore , May 02, 2011
Deck DIY'er
Our pressure treated pine deck is 3 years old, partially sealed with clear sealant. We want to put on a semi-transparent stain. Q1: Some of the wood has cracks, do I need to fill those first, and at what stage would I do that (before or after stripping?) Q2: the deck railing has some rough wood - at what stage do I sand? Q3: can I strip non-sealed areas so I don't have to strip part and clean part? (trying to save steps) thanks!
Jen Agnew , May 02, 2011
sealant application
It states on my sealant that I must wait 3 days after washing the deck to apply. How important is this, in the past I could apply sealant right away. Why must I wait with Cabots?
d drew , May 02, 2011
re: Cedar deck restoration cont..
Water based stain are not prone to mold/mildew, are environmentally friendlier, and can be cleaned with soap and water.

Oil based stains penetrate better typically and can be easier to apply.

There are pluses and minuses with both.
TheSealerStore , April 29, 2011
Cedar deck restoration cont..
Thanks for the tip about the HD80 stripper.
Regarding the stain, what are the noticeable differences between a Water base and a Oil based stain? What does make one to be chosen comparing to another? Thanks
Denisa Santos , April 29, 2011
re: Cedar deck restoration
The Behr stain is one of the most difficult products to remove. Best to use a stain stripper to remove as much as possible of the Behr. I would look at the HD80 Stripper.

All of the stains that you mentioned are excellent products. Do you prefer a oil or water based stain?
TheSealerStore , April 28, 2011
Cedar deck restoration
I treated my deck two years ago with Behr weatherproofing semi transparent stain, and I will be restoring it soon. I live in Rhode Island, and my deck receives shade in the morning and a burning sunlight during afternoon, I have a dog and kids.
I want a redwood color stain.
What steps and products do you advise for stripping, brightening and staining? Which product performs better? Defy Extreme, Defy Epoxy or TWP?
Denisa Santos , April 28, 2011
re: Wood deck
I would look at the Defy Extreme Clear if you want a water based non-film forming product for your deck at your log home.

Take in inconsideration that the Defy Extreme Stain will last 2-3 times longer then the Defy Extreme Clear when it comes to UV graying.
TheSealerStore , April 24, 2011
Wood deck
We have a log home in Tennessee that was just completed November of 2010. Due to the time of year and weather, we were unable to do anything with the deck and do not live there year-round.

I am interested in a product that is a non-film forming water base to protect the wood but I don't want to use a stain. 400 sq. ft is under cover of a porch and 400 sq. ft. is unprotected.

Since nothing has been done to protect the deck since it was built, can you please advise me on what steps should be taken and which products would work best for this application.

Debbie Linsenmeyer , April 24, 2011
Stain Filters
This site is by far the best site out there. smilies/smiley.gifsmilies/grin.gifsmilies/grin.gif

I really like the Stain Filters that allow you to narrow your choices.
JP , April 22, 2011
re: Pressure Treated Wood Deck Paint and Stain Removeal
Most likely you will not be able to remove the paint completely without sanding. Deck Stain Strippers are designed to remove semi-transparent stains not solid paints. Might be best to strip what is loose and dirty then sand off the rest to get to bare wood. If not then you would need to apply another solid stain.
TheSealerStore , April 17, 2011
Pressure Treated Wood Deck Paint and Stain Removeal
Purchased home 3 years ago. The deck looked great as it had been recently painted a light color of gray. Now that the paint is pealing off, I can see that there is a dark brown transparent stain under the paint. Can I remove the paint and stain to start over or what would you recommend?
John Jenkins , April 17, 2011
re: Redwood Deck
First off you will need to apply a stain stripper followed by a wood brightener to remove the current finish. This would be best to make sure that the new stain properly adheres to the wood. Please read these articles for tips: How To Deck Tips

As for the stain, I would look at one of these products:

Armstrong Clark
TWP 1500 Series
Defy Stain for Hardwoods/Redwood

When choosing a color you should take inconsideration how well the old stain came off. If there is still some old stain left make sure to pick a color that is similar or darker.
TheSealerStore , April 01, 2011
Redwood Deck
Currently, there is a semi-transparent stain on it. So far no peeling noted.
Diane , March 31, 2011
re: Redwood Deck
What type of finish is it? Is it a semi-transparent stain where you can see the wood grain or is it a solid stain like a paint?
TheSealerStore , March 31, 2011
Redwood Deck
We are buying a house with a redwood deck. Unsure of the finish on there now. House/Deck about 12 years old. Deck faces the west; full sun in the afternoon. Southwest Kansas. No mold issues. Suggestions for refinishing project would be greatly appreciated.

Diane , March 31, 2011
re: Ipe deck and Cerejeira rail restoration follow up 2
I would use the Defy Hardwood as it penetrates your wood type better and will be easier to reapply then when needed.
TheSealerStore , March 09, 2011
re: Ipe deck and Cerejeira rail restoration follow up 2
Thanks for your timely and helpful responses. I hope I can employ your indulgence one more time. I plan to use a Defy product for ease of clean up, better mold control, and easy annual re-coating. Does the better penetration of the Hardwood stain (light walnut) outperform the nanotechnology of the Extreme stain in either clear or light walnut? Which would you personally use on my Ipe deck and Cerejeira railings?
chaspark , March 09, 2011
re: Ipe deck and Cerejeira rail restoration follow up
EFC-38 and Citralic have the same coverage as the Restore-A-Deck products.

With full sun and your wood types, I would look at one of these stains:

Defy Stain for Hardwoods in Light Walnut
Armstrong Clark in Mahogany
Messmers UV Plus for Hardwoods
TWP 1500 Series in Rustic

Defy is the only water based in the above suggestions as it penetrates better then other water based formulas.
TheSealerStore , March 07, 2011
Ipe deck and Cerejeira rail restoration follow up
Does ECF-38 and Citralic have larger coverage area than Restore-a-deck (as advertised)?
The deck is in New Orleans, LA and has all 3 sun exposures with some mold/mildew in the shade. Is oil or water base better?
chaspark , March 06, 2011
re: Ipe deck and Cerejeira rail restoration
1. I would look at the Restore-A-Deck Kits. They are a two step process containing a Step 1 Cleaning and a Step 2 Brightening. The dark red-brown color of the IPE will be restored after the cleaning and when the stain is applied.

2. There is not a "best" finish/stain. Everything we carry are higher end products. Some though can do better it certain climates. We can help narrow it down for you:

-What state do you live in?
-Full sun, partial or shade?
-Do you have issues with mold or mildew?

TheSealerStore , March 06, 2011
Ipe deck and Cerejeira rail restoration
We have a 900 sq ft Ipe deck and Cerejeira rail and spindle system that was initially treated with Flood Seasonite after an initial 3 month weathering period 10 years ago in a New Orleans water front area. It is now well weathered but sound, very gray with some green mold, and no longer water resistant.
1. What are the best products for cleaning, lightening, and pH adjusting the wood prior to staining? I assume that a sodium per-carbonate cleaner is best, but which one? Is a powder lightener better than a liquid oxalic acid lightener considering environmental damage and the fact that I prefer the original dark red-brown color of Ipe?
2.What is the best finish to use? I prefer to restore the original Ipe color and to maintain that color for as long as possible without refinishing. I also want a finish that is easy to refinish without stripping if possible. Does a water based finish or an oil based finish better meet my needs?
chaspark , March 06, 2011
re: Probably a stupid Question
All of the stains we sell are sealers as well. Basically they will seal the wood while adding pigment "stain" to tint the natural tones of wood different colors.
TheSealerStore , October 13, 2010
Probably a stupid Question
I had someone tell me the other day that ther is such a thing as a stain and sealer all in one. Is this true?
Jerry , October 12, 2010
re: treated pine deck in Ohio
All decking should be prepped properly before applying a stain. Best to use a wood deck cleaner and a wood deck brightener for this.

Best to use a transparent or semi-transparent tinted wood stain to prevent UV graying. They will also enhance the natural wood grain. Some of our more popular are:

TWP Stains
Armstrong Clark
Defy Stains
TheSealerStore , September 20, 2010
Hoping you can advise. We had a pressure treated pine deck built last year. The contractor told us to wait a year before sealing/staining it. It has been a year. it still looks good. We want to keep it as low maintenance as possible. My thinking is a very good clear sealer and then keep it clean and possibly reseal every year or as needed. But after reading forums and sites on the internet I am as confused as I was at the beginning. We live in Ohio. It is a pine deck on the west side of house, good air circulation and sun on it for about 4+ hours a day.
How much preparation? What products to use for cleaning and then for finish? We are heading toward probably wetter time of year, what cautions do you have about when to do all this work?
thank you for your help.
Annie Fry , September 19, 2010
re: Tinted sealer over existing sealer
Probably not. It really depends on the old sealer and the new sealer adhering properly. I would do a test spot first.
TheSealerStore , September 15, 2010
Tinted sealer over existing sealer
I have a home that is already sealed with some producr. Can I use a tinted sealer to change the color of the wood?
Ken Doucette , September 14, 2010
re: Penta WR treated southern pine covered porch floor finishing?
Sanding is not suggested and can cause absorptions issues! Best to use a wood deck cleaner and brightener to prep the wood.

We strongly suggest the TimberOil for all new wood. It absorbs the best. It is also very easy to reapply when needed.

You might want to read the 101 Deck Restoration Tips as well.
TheSealerStore , September 11, 2010
Penta WR treated southern pine covered porch floor finishing?
New Penta WR southern pine porch floor was put down about 3 months ago. I'd like to finish in the next few weeks before the winter. I live in VA so they are fairly mild. Preferably I'd like to keep the wood grain visibile and use a product that is easy to recoat. It is high traffic on the covered front porch as it leads to normally used house entry point. My plan was to use a vibratory sander to smooth (80 then 100 grit) the surface before using a pentrating stain. Any product recommendations, steps I'm missing? I was hoping sanding would eliminate cleaning and brightner use before staining.

Paul Hutcheson , September 10, 2010
re: Penofin solid
It depends on how the solid stain wears. Since they film on top of the wood they are more prone to lifting and peeling then a stain that penetrates into the wood. Penofin though does have one of the best penetrating solid stains so this is less likely to happen.
TheSealerStore , August 15, 2010
Penofin solid
hello.i have ordered from you in the past and already are prepping for next april. i was thinking of using penofin solid rather than transparent. i know that with transparent you just put on, let it wear a bit, wash it down good and reapply a coat, no need to strip or sand. thats what people love! but if i use the penofin solid can i do the same? wait a year or two, scrub and go over it? thanks so much
Dave Canale , August 14, 2010
re: what's best to use?
For Michigan weather (which is where we are) I would look at these stains:

TWP 100 series
Defy Extreme Stain
Armstrong Clark Stain
TimberOil Brand

You can get samples on this link:
TheSealerStore , August 05, 2010
Hi, Thanks for getting back with us cause we are having a hard time deciding on which product to purchase. We live in southwestern lower Michigan. The deck is partial shade, but it all gets sun at some point in the day. There are no mold or algae issues. This will be the initial treatment of the wood. We want the finish to be very light, as close as possibe to natural, but realize we will need some pigmentation due to UV rays.
Bob Hames , August 04, 2010
re: what's best to use?
We really do not have a "best" stain. all are high end products and typically last about the same. Some though do better in certain scenarios or climates. I can narrow it down with more info;

1. Where do you live?
2. Are you in full sun, partial shade, or full shade?
3. Do you have mold or algae issues
4. Has it been treated before? If so with what?
TheSealerStore , August 04, 2010
what's best to use?
We built a 16x60 deck in July 2009. We want to use a high quality sealant to lengthen the time between re-seals. We used pressure-treated pine, and want the natural color as much as possible. What do you suggest?
Bob Hames , August 03, 2010
re: Garapa staining
Yes you can use the Defy Hardwood Stain on your Garapa wood. Have had numerous customers use it with positive feedback
TheSealerStore , August 03, 2010
Garapa staining
Has anyone tried defy products on garap decking
Howard Jackson , August 03, 2010
re: Oxford Brown, Armstrong Clark

Sorry but the Oxford Brown is not black. It is a very dark brown but not black and we do not have any stains that are black in color. If you would like to get a sample for your customer you can here:

As for the work. It is not any different for the prepping or the application of a dark stain.

TheSealerStore , July 24, 2010
Oxford Brown, Armstrong Clark
I have a customer, that would like their, very old grey 2 story boat dock, cleaned and stained. While i normally use ready seal, I showed her some color samples for Armstrong Clark, and she was extremely interested in a Black type finish, so naturally she chose, the Oxford Brown, the pictures look black, but is it actually brown? and if it is black, is the application process for this type of stain, the same as all the other wood work I have done, Striping, Cleaning, Neutralizing, and then spraying on the stain? or would it differ? She is looking for a black stain/sealer that will still show the naturals of the wood, but have a black rustic type finish. This deck is around 2800 sq/ft and since it has not been stained in over 8 years, im probably going to throw around 25 gallons of stain at it.
John Aljaz , July 23, 2010
I have a 12 x 32 cedar deck that is about 6 years old. I originally applied Penofin after building the deck. After a month or so it seemed to have lost all of its water resistance as the water soaked in instead of beading. A couple years later I stripped the deck, let it dry well and used the Cabot semi-transparent deck stain (cedar color which ended up being god awful baby puke brownish-orange). It seemed to function well for about a year, but then started visibly wearing off and soaking in the water. Is there a deck stain out there I can trust? I was told both of these products were good and they were terrible. How do I get that nice oiled cedar look (not baby puke) that beads water and lasts at least 2 years?
Kris , July 22, 2010
re: restoring prev finished deck bench
You could use a solid stain. Verticals are not as prone to rotting like your flooring did.
TheSealerStore , July 11, 2010
restoring prev finished deck bench
I have a composite deck with cedar surround,railing and benches and swing arbor. We sealed all the exposed cedar originally (10) years ago, with a Cabot Teflon product. The results were not good and basically trapped all the moisture in the cedar, and therefore almost all of the cedar has deteriorated and I am now replacing it with composite. I have used Cabot stains subsequently after sanding off the teflon product. I am now of the opinion that I wish to paint all the remaining surfaces or would you not recommend that in light of my past experiences.
Lee , July 10, 2010
re: Cedar Siding - Natural weathered-gray look
For this I would suggest the Defy UV clear or the Defy Extreme Clear. Both will seal and protect while naturally graying through the years. In addition the Extreme contains Zinc Oxide nano particles. These are excellent at preventing mold/mildew from growing.
TheSealerStore , July 07, 2010
Cedar Siding - Natural weathered-gray look
What sealer (or stain) would you recommend?

We are building a camp on the coast of Maine and will be using northern white cedar clapboard and shake siding. We like the natural, gray weathered look. We would like to minimize mold growth and allow the natural graying to occur. We tried Cabot's bleaching oil on another house we owned 20 years ago, with so-so luck..... never turned gray and eventually refinished with a solid cabot stain. Thanks
GMB , July 06, 2010
re: wood cabin
Wood stains are sealers but with pigmented (stain) added. Stains will seal, offer color enhancement and protect from UV fading.

You would use the same product on your deck as well as the wood cabin.
TheSealerStore , July 03, 2010
I have a wood cabin that had a reddish stain put on a year and a half ago. I want to protect the wood exterior sides. I do not understand if I will get better protection from a sealer or a stain.
Why would I want one rather than the other? I also have decks which were never covered and I want to cover them. Again a sealer or a stain?
Dorothy Uhlig , July 02, 2010
re: Blue Label
When reapplying the same stain you should at the very least use a wood cleaner to prep properly should be cleaned at the very least.
TheSealerStore , June 29, 2010
Can the blue label Penofin be applied without stripping or brightening if it was used previously?Thanks,
Bernadine , June 29, 2010
re: wood preservative/sealer/mold inhibitor
The deck stain products we sell will not work on an inside crawl space to inhibit mold.
TheSealerStore , June 17, 2010
wood preservative/sealer/mold inhibitor
Hi, I am cleaning up mold in my crawl space. I have installed a french drain, sump pump, and a vapor barrier. I would like to apply a sealer on the freshly cleaned joists to inhibit future mold growth and repel water. I was thinking the Defy Epoxy with synthetic resins might be my best bet or the TWP. What would you recommend? Thanks.
celia , June 16, 2010
re: ipe wet look sealer
Deck sealers and stains are not supposed to be glossy. This would be extremely bad for horizontal decking. Hardwood decking stains will enhance the natural color of the wood as with if wet with water but they will not leave a shiny gloss.
TheSealerStore , June 14, 2010
ipe wet look sealer
I know I do not need to seal my ipe deck however I love the look of it when its wet. How do I get the wet look to stay. I just applied a sealer/wood protector to bring the color out however as it dries the glossy look goes away. When I first applied it and the sealer was wet it looked incredible. Thanks
Kevin Butschky , June 14, 2010
re: Help!
Since you are in such high humidity and shade I would use a water based stain as they do not promote mold/mildew growth. The best water based stain we have are the Defy Stains. Of the different types of Defy Stains, I would go with the Defy Extreme Wood Stain in one of the transparent colors.
TheSealerStore , June 11, 2010
I need some of your expert advice. What would you recommend we use for staining very large pressure treated pine decks that are 20 years old? The decks are in the Florida sun, with high humidity, with lots of rain. Most of the 3 decks are in a shady area. One is in a sunny area.s. The deck has just been pressure washed and since the old semi-transparent stain was approx. 6 years old, I think we are down to the bare wood at this point. I am looking for something that will last and yet won't create possible mold problems that I've been reading about above. Any suggestions? Thanks very much for any advice.
Arlene Perlette , June 10, 2010